If you  can use boiling water to install (dunking) and remove with various 
techniques…and gloves it works a treat.

From: Eddie Wills via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2025 12:06 PM
To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Eddie Wills <ejwills1...@gmail.com>
Subject: Stus-List Re: Sink drain hose

I recommend using a heat gun to soften up the hose and minimize damage to the 
barb.

I had to replace the hoses to my holding tank.  I tried combinations of 'hook' 
removal tool and dremel tool (with the cutoff wheel) to break the hoses loose 
from the barbs... Heat gun is highly recommended for loosening up a crispy hose.

On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 7:32 AM David Knecht via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I have a hose removal tool like those, but most times when I have used it on 
those big thick stiff hoses, I have damaged the end of the hose so that it 
needed to be replaced.  My hope is the softer hose will eliminate the need for 
that tool.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT

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On Apr 11, 2025, at 6:07 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

FWIW, Harbor Freight sells cheap hose remover tools.  They look like a screw 
driver with a hooked end.  Work great to work the hose loose from a barbed 
fitting and then pull it off.   You have to buy a set, but you wind up with 
different sizes and styles you can divide between the boat, the car, and the 
garage shop.

Chuck S
On 04/11/2025 5:33 PM EDT Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


I have been using Silicone Radiator Hose for some of these hoses.
While I realise that they may not be Approved, as Joel notes, where I need to 
remove these occasionally  these are a godsend. Like me, they have no memory, 
and are simple to remove. With that in mind, I always use two good quality SS 
Clamps on them.  For me, the only downside is that they are pricey, but there 
is a local  Hose Vendor that has pretty good prices.  I wouldn't use these for 
a major suction purpose.

Bill Coleman
Erie

On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 3:46 PM David Knecht via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi Dave- Thanks for you message and I like your suggestion.  I did not know 
there was a more flexible version of non-collapsing hose.  I thought about 
using reinforced PVC and did not realize it might kink so you saved me from 
that mistake.  Have you tried to get the softball hose off and on a barb yet?  
If it is easier to remove, that would solve my problem.  Have you considered 
using grease to help?  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT

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On Apr 10, 2025, at 3:39 PM, Dave S via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Anywhere there’s vaccuum (I.e. cooling intake) for sure you’d want a 
non-collapsing hose.  (Negative pressure more an issue than  positive pressure)

I had a fibre reinfoced clear pvc reinf sink drain hose kink at a bend point 
and replaced it with MPI series 110 hose, which was much easier to work with 
than the stiff Lloyd’s approved stuff I had used elsewhere.   I’ll use it to 
replace the clear stuff on other through-hulls in future.

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Series 110<https://marinehose.com/product/series-110/>
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Dave

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On Apr 10, 2025, at 12:17 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
David,

There is an ABYC standard: Hoses that connect to underwater fittings should be 
manufactured to SAE J20R3 as a minimum and marked as such on the outer surface.

They are reinforced (and yes, stiff).  You could use wire reinforced clear 
hose.  Less stiff than the black or sanitation hose.

Joel

On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 12:05 PM David Knecht via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I am wondering if there is a reason why one would need to (or want to) use a 
thick, stiff hose for a sink drain connected to a seacock.  It makes bends 
difficult/impossible and makes it difficult to remove the hose from the barb.  
It seems like overkill in a situation where there is little to no pressure on 
the hose.  Something like Tygon/PVC tubing would seem adequate and much easier 
to work with.  I would think the same would be true for the raw water cooling 
hoses.  Am I missing something?  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT
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