Hi Dave- Thanks for you message and I like your suggestion.  I did not know 
there was a more flexible version of non-collapsing hose.  I thought about 
using reinforced PVC and did not realize it might kink so you saved me from 
that mistake.  Have you tried to get the softball hose off and on a barb yet?  
If it is easier to remove, that would solve my problem.  Have you considered 
using grease to help?  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT



> On Apr 10, 2025, at 3:39 PM, Dave S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Anywhere there’s vaccuum (I.e. cooling intake) for sure you’d want a 
> non-collapsing hose.  (Negative pressure more an issue than  positive 
> pressure)  
> 
> I had a fibre reinfoced clear pvc reinf sink drain hose kink at a bend point 
> and replaced it with MPI series 110 hose, which was much easier to work with 
> than the stiff Lloyd’s approved stuff I had used elsewhere.   I’ll use it to 
> replace the clear stuff on other through-hulls in future. 
> https://marinehose.com/product/series-110/<110-Softwall-Water-Cut-Away.jpg>
> https://marinehose.com/product/series-110/ 
> 
> Dave 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 10, 2025, at 12:17 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> David,
>> 
>> There is an ABYC standard: Hoses that connect to underwater fittings should 
>> be manufactured to SAE J20R3 as a minimum and marked as such on the outer 
>> surface.
>> 
>> They are reinforced (and yes, stiff).  You could use wire reinforced clear 
>> hose.  Less stiff than the black or sanitation hose.
>> 
>> Joel
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 12:05 PM David Knecht via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>>> I am wondering if there is a reason why one would need to (or want to) use 
>>> a thick, stiff hose for a sink drain connected to a seacock.  It makes 
>>> bends difficult/impossible and makes it difficult to remove the hose from 
>>> the barb.  It seems like overkill in a situation where there is little to 
>>> no pressure on the hose.  Something like Tygon/PVC tubing would seem 
>>> adequate and much easier to work with.  I would think the same would be 
>>> true for the raw water cooling hoses.  Am I missing something?  Dave
>>> 
>>> S/V Aries
>>> 1990 C&C 34+
>>> New London, CT
>>> 
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