First problem - electrical in ignition.

Second - gas engines race when they lean out, then die.  This was a great 
feature in little pit bikes with centrifugal clutches - an unexpected launch 
before running out of fuel.  
Could be a fuel supply issue.  

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> On Jun 13, 2023, at 1:18 PM, Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Atomic 4 are really reliable and need very little to run  ( good spark, 
> compression and almost any gas ).
> A sudden stop will typically have one of two causes, water in fuel or 
> ignition coil ( overheating or short-circuit ). 
> For water try adding 8 ounces of gas line antifreeze ( methyl hydrate 
> available at most hardware stores ). A good RACOR fuel filter with 10 microns 
> will prevent that.
> For the coil, try waiting 15-20 minutes so it cool off and restart, if not 
> well you have a spare coil on the boat right?
> 
> For the slippage, maybe some kind of cavitation. If it happens with reverse 
> make sure you are only using straight 30-grade oil or motorcycle oil ( I've 
> been using 10w40 Castrol motorcycle oil for the last 26 years. Modern oils 
> have way too much antifriction additives and lack the famous ZDDP that used 
> to be added to protect engines.
> Don Moyer made a good video on youtube to help troubleshoot sudden engine 
> powerdown.
> 
> Sylvain
> C&C27MkIII 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 01:43:08 AM EDT, Karl Kuzis via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Since we are on stories of oddness I have 2.
> 
> First, when cruising along at modest rpm, will have a sudden shut down. Just 
> off. No change in sound, smell, rpm, etc just as if ignition switch cut out. 
> Suspecting a loose connection I proofed all wires / connections and we'll 
> test it out cruising around next week. Any odd ideas to keep in mind?
> 
> Second, episodically when motoring at higher rpm close to hull speed will 
> have a sudden racing of the engine with loss of power. Pull back throttle, 
> and goes back to normal but not unusual to reoccur. Haven't noticed it at 
> lower speed or rpm.
> I'm suspicious of cavitation but haven't thought it thru as to causes, tests 
> of theory, remedies or other options. Thoughts?
> 
> C&C 29 Mark 1 with a recently rebuilt Atomic 4 and 2 bade folding prop.
> 
> Karl Kuzis 
> Firefly 
> C&C Mk1
> karl.ku...@gmail.com 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 13, 2023, 3:18 AM Korbey Hunt via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Scary stuff. Frustrating when "professionals" muck things up.
> 
> 
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> From: Todd Williams via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 6:40:52 PM
> To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: Todd Williams <trwilli...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Engine strangeness
>  
> Jon and others,
> 
> Until two years ago, my boat also used to stall in idle when approaching 
> docks. Then, midway across Lake Ontario from Cape Vincent to Sodus on a calm 
> day the fresh water pump/antifreeze circulator seized up. There was melting 
> belt rubber with smoke as the bearings stopped turning. Five days and $56 
> later I had a new antifreeze circulator in place and we haven’t stalled out 
> since. The friction in the bearings were enough to strain the engine into a 
> stall.
> 
> TODD
> 
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 7:26 PM JP Mail via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> Previous boat
> ‘79 Nicholson 303
> Yanmar 2qm15
> 320 hrs. 
> 
> Starts and runs all day. Slowing while approaching a dock-stalls.
> Change filters, check for loose fuel lines, change crush washers…..
> Approaching a dock….stall. Always while slowing down. 
> Approaching the fuel dock at Dodson’s was told “I’m going there!” By the nice 
> man on his Hinckley.  My response, “Sorry,(engine stalls) I am. 
> The fuel pickup was at the forward end of the cylindrical tank. When I 
> slowed, all the crud would slosh forward and block the pickup causing a 
> stall. 
> Unfortunately the yard cleaned the tank and replaced it. they also 
> inadvertently punctured it and diesel would run out the bottom. Found this 
> out after a day sailing. Back to the yard and a new tank was installed. 
> Unfortunately they inadvertently severed the propane line while cutting a 2” 
> hole in a bulkhead to run a new vent line. It was obscured by the insulation. 
> Found this out when it blew up. With 2 of us onboard. ‘Nother story. I’m sure 
> I told it here at some point. 
> Jon Pratt
> Hideaway 35-3
> Stamford CT
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