I would wager that Practical Sailor has done some sort of testing on bedding compounds in their history. I have not looked to see if this is true, merely an assumption based on past reading and following of the publication.
Regards, Bob Tallman 631.387.6748 On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 9:30 PM, leewardrail hotmail via CnC-List<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: "I still have about a half a roll of 3M butyl tape purchased about 18 years ago at an auto supply house that caters to body shops." That's the thing... that was 18 years ago. getting things like lacquer automotive paints and excellent anti-fouling 18 years ago was easy. As production costs and environmental rules increase, products change. Look at what Interlux just did with their anti-fouling product line. I fully agree with 3M being good products, but even the 3M rep I dealt with 4 years ago, admitted that have had to reformulate some products. That said, if I had to assume that someone made a decent butyl, it would be 3M. That would also assume the market is still big enough for a similar formulation, as opposed to profitable replacement products. FWIW the Bed-it stuff is much stickier than the others i have used. That is the big thing IMO. I would love to see practical boat owner buy a bunch of butyl and test them. Based on a thread I just found, looks like he sold the formulation and brand to sailboatowners.com, not just have them sell it. https://www.sailnet.com/threads/no-bed-it-butyl-tape.343577/ Cheers, Roy On 2022-10-25 7:26 p.m., Rick Brass via CnC-List wrote: _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv6791627304 p.yiv6791627304MsoNormal, #yiv6791627304 li.yiv6791627304MsoNormal, #yiv6791627304 div.yiv6791627304MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman", serif;}#yiv6791627304 a:link, #yiv6791627304 span.yiv6791627304MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv6791627304 a:visited, #yiv6791627304 span.yiv6791627304MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv6791627304 p {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman", serif;}#yiv6791627304 span.yiv6791627304EmailStyle18 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;}#yiv6791627304 .yiv6791627304MsoChpDefault {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}#yiv6791627304 div.yiv6791627304WordSection1 {} I still have about a half a roll of 3M butyl tape purchased about 18 years ago at an auto supply house that caters to body shops. Long time ago, when I was in the car business working for GM, I learned that there were no higher quality alternatives to 3M products. So that has pretty much been my go-to source for adhesives and so forth. In the 18 years I’ve had Imzadi I’ve never had a leak or had any of the 3M tape squish out from under the hardware. Never tried Bed-It Butyl, though I know it to be highly regarded by those on the list. So I can’t compare it to what I’ve used. But 3M stuff is readily available and performs well in my experience. Rick Brass Imzadi C&C 38 mk2 #47 la Belle Aurore C&C 25 mk1 #225 Washington, NC From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 6:02 PM To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Bill Coleman <colt...@gmail.com> Subject: Stus-List Re: bed-it butyl tape source My feeling of the Bed-it-Butyl, is that it seems to kind of hold together. While the original or garden variety from the RV stores keeps moving, under head it seems like it will drip away, while the Bed-it seems to not move, more firm, like it has invisible fibers in it. (it doesn't) Also, diesel will dissolve it, as well as 5200 and 4200. Bill Coleman Entrada, Erie PA On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 5:26 PM Dave S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: It would be interesting to compare bed-it to other butyl tapes. I find it doubtful that it has any special marine magic mojo that other quality products don’t. it is very likely Rod found a good product he trusted, has had private labelled, and has done a good job of promoting it. (Good for him) Likely there is another brand out there with identical packaging etc…. The butyl C&C used originally has stood up really well and I’d use that for any refit, knowing it will outlast me. Long shot here but does anyone know what the factory used? Dave 33-2 windstar Sent from my iPhone On Oct 25, 2022, at 12:34 PM, Leeward Rail via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Thanks Paul. I have ordered some and will compare it. Oct. 25, 2022 8:06:14 a.m. Dreuge via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>: I have purchased Dicor butyl tape from Amazon. I have been using it for several years now, and this stuff is the real deal. See "Dicor BT-1834-1 1/8" x 3/4” x 30' Butyl Seal Tape” for $11.86 Prime free delivery. Here is the link to Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Dicor-BT-1834-1-Butyl-Seal-Tape/dp/B001FCB4JS/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=butyl%2Btape&qid=1666702413&qu=eyJxc2MiOiI0Ljk1IiwicXNhIjoiNC4zNiIsInFzcCI6IjQuMTIifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=buty%2Caps%2C92&sr=8-3&th=1 - Paul E. 1981 C&C Landfall 38 S/V Johanna Rose Fort Walton Beach, FL http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/ On Oct 25, 2022, at 8:05 AM, John Irvin via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: On Oct 25, 2022, at 7:51 AM, schiller via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: If you can't get Bed-it. Try your local RV store for Dicor Butyl tape. I have both and find them similar. Neil Schiller 1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace" Whitehall, Michigan On 10/24/2022 11:16 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List wrote: Still looking for a source for Bed-it butyl tape. Every one I check is sold out or out of stock. Has anyone bought some recently? Chuck S
