I am safe from that, the deepest the water ever freezes is a couple of inches 
down from the surface and even that is rare. Plus unless the power goes out the 
heat in the cabin is set for about 50F when I am not around.
All the live-aboards string fresh water houses around the marina on the bottom 
and pull them up when they need water, they never freeze 6 feet underwater.
I have seen wet rudders split on the hard when we have extra-cold winters. If I 
ever sat on the hard in winter I might drill a drain hole in the rudder or take 
it home and put it inside somewhere.


Joe Della Barba
Coquina


From: Dave S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 9:31 AM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C&C 35 MK I Keel Bolts

Interesting indeed - especially the part about freeze/thaw  keel casting 
failures.    he attributes these to bolt deterioration, but I expect that 
leaking bedding, imperfect casting, or lose bolts may also contribute.

Here’s what casting failure looks like:

https://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/2016/09/mid-1980s-c-keel-issues.html?m=1

Dave Syer 33-2


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On Sep 27, 2022, at 7:17 AM, Ken Heaton 
<kenhea...@gmail.com<mailto:kenhea...@gmail.com>> wrote:

An interesting read from MarsKeel Technology, Keel Maintenance By: William 
Souter
https://46in1h3fzpsy3uz5el3ytm6p-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Keel_Repair_White_Paper.pdf

Ken H.

On Mon, 26 Sept 2022 at 16:29, Dave S via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I’ve been following this thread a little bit, And I can’t help but wonder if 
the lead doesn’t creep a tiny bit over time.  There’s a lot of compression 
involved.  It wouldn’t take much to see a reduction in bolt torque.

Dave 33-2
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On Sep 26, 2022, at 2:27 PM, John Irvin via CnC-List 
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What do Mars Keels have to say?

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Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 35 MK I Keel Bolts

I believe our C&C yachts use lead doped with  a percent of Antimony. The 
Antimony adds strength, hardness, oxidation resistance,  and aids in the flow 
for the casting process.
It not like pure lead, and the properties are not the same. maybe we have some 
metallurgists in the group, and they can comment ?

Don Wagner
C&C 41 CB
"Der Baron"
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Sent: Sun, Sep 25, 2022 2:32 pm
Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 35 MK I Keel Bolts
I hadn’t thought of that! The keel is slowly getting shorter. If I keep the 
boat another 50 years I won’t be aground at extra-low tide!


Joe Della Barba
Coquina C&C 35 MK I
Kent Island MD USA



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Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 35 MK I Keel Bolts

The keel bolts are in lead. Lead is soft and eventually they would pull upwards 
slightly.  I would assume that is why.   I have been planning to contact 
MARSKEEL and get some pro info.

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