flooded 8D is 160 pounds.  200 aH Lifepo is 40.

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 6:26 PM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> 1 AH means you get one amp for one hour.
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> Power is amps times volts, so 1 amp at 12 volts is half as much power as 1
> amp at 24 volts.
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> Amp-hours only makes sense when comparing batteries of the same voltage,
> watt-hours is the same across all voltages.
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> A 225 AH 12 volt lead acid battery an 8D size and is very heavy. It can
> supply about 120 amp-hours or so for long life in cycling mode. A 200
> amp-hour lithium battery is good for maybe 180 amp-hours without damage.
> Rule of thumb is lead-acid should cycle at 50% and lithium can go to 80%.
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> Joe Della Barba
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> Coquina C&C 35 MK I
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> Kent Island MD USA
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> *From:* Bill Coleman via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 3:35 PM
> *To:* Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Cc:* Bill Coleman <colt...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Lithium Batteries
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> Oh!
> For some reason, I thought Ah were constant, regardless of voltage - I
> guess maybe that is Kilowatts -
> So with a 200 Ah Lifepo battery vs a 255 AGM, looks like I will lose some
> capacity, unless that is made up with efficiency from the Lithium - .
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> Does that make sense?
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> Thanks Joe.
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> Bill Coleman
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> On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 2:40 PM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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> A 100 AH 24 volt battery and a 200 AH 12 volt battery hold the same amount
> of power.
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> Assuming they are using 100 AH cells, the 12 volt will have 2 sets of 4
>  in series in the case that are then in parallel and the 24 volt version
> will have all 8 in series. You could literally open the case and change a
> 12 to a 24 volt or back again, BMS issues aside.
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> Don’t forget the lithium batteries in a standard-size case may not be
> using all the real estate inside that case either, it isn’t like lead-acid
> where a certain capacity means a certain size.
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> *Joe Della Barba*
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> Coquina
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> *From:* Bill Coleman via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2022 2:33 PM
> *To:* Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Cc:* Bill Coleman <colt...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Lithium Batteries
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> These are confusing, they have a 24 V that looks similar in size to the
> lifeline 8D, but the 8D is 255 Ah, and the
> *SOK 24V 100Ah LiFePO4 Battery
> <https://www.us.sokbattery.com/product-page/sok-24v-100ah-lifepo4-battery>*
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> is only 100 Ah - are they supposed to be equal, even with that disparity?
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> Blil Coleman
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> Entrada Erie PA
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> On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 4:45 PM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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> I think I am going to get 2 of these:
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> https://www.us.sokbattery.com/product-page/sok-12v100ah-lifepo4-battery
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> Advantages I see:
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>    1. Two of them means a dead BMS only takes half the bank offline, not
>    100% of your power.
>    2. They have heaters for the very rare times the cabin might be below
>    freezing.
>    3. They have Bluetooth for access to the BMS.
>    4. I saved the best for last, if the BMS craps out or you just want a
>    better one, just open it up and replace it! This is NOT possible with most
>    batteries unless you cut them apart.
>    5. See 4, a dead cell can be replaced.
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> Joe Della Barba
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> Coquina C&C 35 MK I
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> Kent Island MD USA
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Joel

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