1 AH means you get one amp for one hour.

Power is amps times volts, so 1 amp at 12 volts is half as much power as 1 amp 
at 24 volts.

Amp-hours only makes sense when comparing batteries of the same voltage, 
watt-hours is the same across all voltages.

 

A 225 AH 12 volt lead acid battery an 8D size and is very heavy. It can supply 
about 120 amp-hours or so for long life in cycling mode. A 200 amp-hour lithium 
battery is good for maybe 180 amp-hours without damage. Rule of thumb is 
lead-acid should cycle at 50% and lithium can go to 80%.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

 

From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 3:35 PM
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Cc: Bill Coleman <colt...@gmail.com>
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Lithium Batteries

 

Oh!
For some reason, I thought Ah were constant, regardless of voltage - I guess 
maybe that is Kilowatts -
So with a 200 Ah Lifepo battery vs a 255 AGM, looks like I will lose some 
capacity, unless that is made up with efficiency from the Lithium - .

Does that make sense?

 

Thanks Joe.

Bill Coleman

 

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 2:40 PM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

A 100 AH 24 volt battery and a 200 AH 12 volt battery hold the same amount of 
power. 

Assuming they are using 100 AH cells, the 12 volt will have 2 sets of 4  in 
series in the case that are then in parallel and the 24 volt version will have 
all 8 in series. You could literally open the case and change a 12 to a 24 volt 
or back again, BMS issues aside.

Don’t forget the lithium batteries in a standard-size case may not be using all 
the real estate inside that case either, it isn’t like lead-acid where a 
certain capacity means a certain size.

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina

 

 

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Lithium Batteries

 

These are confusing, they have a 24 V that looks similar in size to the 
lifeline 8D, but the 8D is 255 Ah, and the 


SOK 24V 100Ah LiFePO4 Battery  
<https://www.us.sokbattery.com/product-page/sok-24v-100ah-lifepo4-battery> 


 

is only 100 Ah - are they supposed to be equal, even with that disparity? 

 

Blil Coleman

Entrada Erie PA

 

On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 4:45 PM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I think I am going to get 2 of these:

https://www.us.sokbattery.com/product-page/sok-12v100ah-lifepo4-battery

 

Advantages I see:

1.      Two of them means a dead BMS only takes half the bank offline, not 100% 
of your power.
2.      They have heaters for the very rare times the cabin might be below 
freezing.
3.      They have Bluetooth for access to the BMS.
4.      I saved the best for last, if the BMS craps out or you just want a 
better one, just open it up and replace it! This is NOT possible with most 
batteries unless you cut them apart.
5.      See 4, a dead cell can be replaced.

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

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