Last year we dropped the rudder on Persistence to replace the rudder bushings.
After going through that process once I cannot imagine how annoying it would be to remove the rudder every year! (unless I was sailing a Laser) I have been following this thread with interest – and yes this list is amazing! Mike Hoyt Persistence Halifax, NS www.hoytsailing.com From: Paul Hood via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: January 5, 2022 4:34 PM To: 'Stus-List' <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: 'CHARLES SCHEAFFER' <cscheaf...@comcast.net>; Paul Hood <paul.h...@rogers.com> Subject: Stus-List Re: Rudder issues To expand on the set screw idea. A garboard drain would be ideal. I have one in the hull and duplicating that on the rudder makes sense. Otherwise, repairing the problem and keeping the water out is always best. But hey, sometimes you never know and having it off every winter is good insurance. Paul Hood REFUGE - ’81 C&C34 Georgian Bay From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Sent: January 5, 2022 3:05 PM To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER <cscheaf...@comcast.net<mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net>> Subject: Stus-List Re: Rudder issues Set screws are a great idea for a drain. That's why this list is so valuable. So many different listers; so many alternative ideas. I'm going to try that idea. Heretofore, I've always drilled the quarter inch hole. My rudder usually drips a few drops and stops, but It drips after a heavy rain, so I am pretty sure the joint, where the shaft exits the top of the rudder, leaks. Drilling the hole is just insurance against ice expanding inside and delamination. Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C&C 34R, Chesapeake Bay On 01/05/2022 12:56 PM John Irvin via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Firefly (C&C 27 III) has a similar problem. We installed set screws for the drain holes which allow the 2-3 cups of water to drip out in the fall. Sealed with Vaseline when the set screws go in at spring launch. No issues this way. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 5, 2022, at 12:31 PM, Brian Davis via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Thank you, Spencer. Makes sense. I'm in south Florida, so we never get a freeze. I drilled a couple more holes, dug around with a screwdriver, vacuumed it a lot, and have had my heat gun blowing in the area for about 3 hours now...at a safe distance. Its seems pretty dry, but I'm going to let her set in the sun for several days. Fortunately, I don't think its to bad. The upper 75% seems very dry since I drilled out one of the foam fill holes when they made it. Overall I think I roll with this fix and monitor it next time I haulout. Really appreciate having this group to turn to for advice and stories. Regards, Brian On Wed, Jan 5, 2022, 12:04 PM Spencer Johnson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Hi Brian...I replaced my rudder in 2018 after years of bringing it home over the winter to let it drain out of the rudder-shaft connection. I gave up and had Competition Composites (cci.one) in Ontario repair it. Their computer scanned the rudder, removed the fiberglass and foam confirming that the SS post was in good shape (because of the black/brown tarry ooze that came out of the rudder I was relieved), then they scanned the shaft. After cleaning it all up they used a CNC milling machine to cut two halves of hard Divinycell foam - inside and outside - then packed with epoxy. The outside was covered in 2 layers of fiberglass mat, vacuum bagged, then faired and primed. Some pics: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bz49si3Z0GdDd2sxVXNHV1Iwc0E?resourcekey=0-mxt2XK3szmOGKjPR91NARA&usp=sharing<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdrive.google.com%2Fdrive%2Ffolders%2F0Bz49si3Z0GdDd2sxVXNHV1Iwc0E%3Fresourcekey%3D0-mxt2XK3szmOGKjPR91NARA%26usp%3Dsharing&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cdc1a51cde9014505e83c08d9d07125f4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637770006649032316%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=tWxxqTees3bfSInxG7TCXsiOgiEfMUwKog%2BV55robOM%3D&reserved=0> They have a video of the process on the website. Cost was about 3k but the exchange rate US to CDN was quite favorable. Shipping was not cheep...a crate cost about $100 and was very well made. Rudder weight dropped in half....from 325 to 150 lbs...much easier to reinstall! Brian....if your boat is outside in the frozen tundra you can be sure it won't just get better. I had the yard use G-Flex on the shaft to rudder joint...water still got in. So, not a matter of IF but WHEN. For me...I was done removing the rudder each fall and taking it home so it would not freeze. The new rudder is solid peace of mind. Good Luck!! Spencer Johnson 84 LF38 "Alegria" #165 Racine, WI / Waukegan, IL Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. 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