Pete:

        Removal is either a multiple person job (supporting from below, yes) or 
you will need to come up with a safe method.  My rudder post is threaded on top 
to accept an eyebolt, and an engineer friend of mine made a winch that sits on 
the deck just over the rudder for raising and lowering.  We call it the 
rudderizer.  Adequately supported jacks can be used underneath for minor 
adjustments as well.

Listers:

        Speaking of rudders and play, my rudder is supported on deck with two 
bronze wheels that roll on a bronze deck ring.  In the straight rudder 
position, the wheels are oriented fore and aft.  In 45 years or so of use, the 
forward wheel and the front portion of the ring have both worn, and there is 
probably an 1/8" or so of play in the rudder.  The forward wheel has worn so 
much that it looks like a different size wheel by design, but Rob Ball (who 
designed the system) says no.  We suspect the lower bushing is also worn (which 
would correspond to the worn forward bronze roller), but I cannot see a 
"bushing" per se.  Inside the boat going from bottom to top, there is a lot of 
built-up fiberglass at the lower entry into the hull, then a space for the 
quadrant to attach, then a lot of built-up glass (with a grease fitting) just 
below the deck where the rudder post exits.  The lower and upper glass 
structures are the "bushings," but there is no access to replace Delrin rings 
or anything like that -- at least not that I can see.  Although we would like 
to remove the little bit of play that we believe is allowed by a worn lower 
bushing, we're scratching our heads about how we might go about it.

        Thoughts?

        Matt
        C&C 42 Custom

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Godwin via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2020 4:46 PM
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Cc: Dave Godwin <dave.god...@me.com>
Subject: Stus-List Re: rudder post fitting

Pete,

My rudder is lying on the ground underneath our boat. I’ll be over there 
tomorrow working on her and will take some photos for you. Although it’s been 
so long since I dropped the rudder, I’m pretty sure that that nut is just for 
the emergency steering gear. I have the same play in our boat. I’m having the 
yard fix that this spring. Bushing/bearing work.

Also, for any of the listers who may be interested, I bought another boat. 
Doesn’t have a mast...

Regards,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin



> On Nov 22, 2020, at 1:49 PM, pete.shelqu...@comcast.net wrote:
> 
> I'm looking for drawings or description of the retaining nut at the top of 
> the rudder post.  Access is from the deck.  Sorry I don't have a photo.   
> There's a lot of play at that point and I'd like to take it apart to 
> review/fix.  
> 
> While on the hard, I presume I need to support the rudder from underneath 
> before removal?  
> 
> Thanks,
> Pete
> 1984 37
> 
> 
> 
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