I had a smile like that on my Viking 33.  I had the yard patch it up, when they 
blasted all the old paint off, and it never reappeared during my ownership of 5 
years.  The repair was not at all expensive as I recall.   You'd still do well 
with a good survey if you really wanted to buy the boat. Are there any signs of 
a grounding/?  Were you able to check the bilge?  This is a pretty common 
occurrence I believe.

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From: <nausetbe...@optonline.net>
To: "'Stus-List'" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Stus-List Potential "Next" Boat - Keel Issue ?'s
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 16:47:35 -0400


I looked at a boat yesterday that seemed like a good contender for a 
&ldquo;next&rdquo; boat, right up until just prior to leaving I looked more 
closely at the keel and found something that does not look particularly good.  
I am hoping for some sage advice from the list, as in a) walk away, or b) might 
be repaired, and if so what would be entailed and is it worth it.  This would 
have to be on the current owner&rsquo;s tab, or a very hefty discount in the 
price. 
 
I tried to attach low res pics but that exceeded the list max message size, so 
here is a link I hope works:&#65533;
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNHJ22k8kS3ukfBzXz67enViRMDw3GAOASwiS49uupKViTIDFeNzLj1LE_pav81Yw?key=QkR1X0FXWlgyclBzY1JYcUtIckRJRGh3dzIyMURR
 
The keel has a fairly significant crack extending at least 18&rdquo; aft from 
the leading edge.  [The bottom was recently painted and I did not try to follow 
it further aft.]  That gap [in the attached photos] is at least 3/8&rdquo; on 
the horizontal axis and about &#65533;&rdquo; on the vertical.  The trailing 
edge has some cracks which are not overly visible, again due to the bottom 
paint.  Unfortunately I did not look closely at / around the keel bolts, nor do 
I have any internal photos, as I noticed this after the boat was closed up.  
The boat is 4 &#65533; hours away so getting more photos is not feasible.  
 
To my untrained eye it appears there was a hard grounding and the keel almost 
seems to have shifted aft in addition to down, based on the angle of the line 
from the fairing of the hull down to the leading edge of the keel.  But there 
does not appear to be any movement aft at the trailing edge, though possibly it 
was punched up.  This does not appear to be along the sump / keel joint as the 
crack is angled upwards and is not horizontal.  The owner claims there have 
been no hard groundings when asked directly, only a handful of soft groundings, 
predominantly in sand, but I have read even that can do damage.  The boat was 
recently under contract and surveyed and that buyer decided against going 
forward.&#65533; The reasons given by the broker did not include any mention of 
damage revealed during the survey.  I do not have a copy of that buyers survey. 
 
Any thoughts on what would need to be done to remedy this, or am I better off 
to move on and keep looking?  Should the keel be dropped and the keel bolts 
examined?  Or would there be other, less intrusive / expensive fixes which 
would be sufficient and safe?  I realize it is difficult to really determine 
the best repair without physically examining the boat but any advice on what 
likely would be required is appreciated. 
 
Thanks,
Brian
 
 
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