Andrew (Andy?), I misspoke.  The topping lift and spin halyards on my boat use 
Barient 23s, not 27s.  The part removal issue I had, which appears identical to 
what you described, was on one of the 23s.  I also have a Barient 27 for my 
main outhaul, Cunningham, and reefing gear.  However, I believe Barient made 
two 27 ST models: the good one, and a cheaper version with a plastic or delrin 
self-tailing clamp.  I have the latter, and the clamp piece was broken when I 
bought the boat.  It took me about two years to get a replacement part from the 
Australian company.  The first one is probably still sitting in a Customs 
warehouse in California.  Whatever happened to the plastic clamp piece must 
have been violent as the original line lifter had been replaced with a 
“homemade” stainless one.

 

I’m afraid I’m not going to be much help resolving your squeak issue.  Sorry.

 

Matt 

 

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My 27s are original Barient.

 

My boat is a 1976 42 Custom (only six made, mine being the last one).  I raced 
against it when I was kid.  The original Baltic 42 was a sistership.  
Impressive looking boat.

 

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I think the Barient 27s are measured somehow differently than Lewmar; they're 
roughly equivalent to a Lewmar 40, size-wise. What size boat do you have? 
Anybody have a good size comparison tool across winch brands?

 

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:16 AM Matt Wolford via CnC-List 
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Sadly, it has been too long for me to remember what we did.  I serviced all the 
winches on my boat several years ago – okay, everybody, you can chastise me 
now.  I chuckled when I read that your boat uses size 27 for your primaries.  I 
use mine for my spin pole topping lift.

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!

 

Thanks Matt! I'll try some penetrating oil and see where it gets me. When you 
got the lifter arm off were you able to adjust the height so it no longer 
rubbed against the clamp ring? Or were you able to lubricate it a bit so it 
didn't squeak?

 

Andrew

 

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:30 AM Matt Wolford via CnC-List 
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Yes and yes.  I eventually got it off, but I can’t recall now how I did it (it 
was a while ago).  Try using some penetrating oil and let it sit before hitting 
it again.  I’ll take a look at mine and see if I can recall anything else I may 
have done.

 

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Subject: Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!

 

Hi all - 

 

The two Barient 27 primary winches on the Safari were in sorry shape, so last 
week I decided to service them. After a rather protracted battle I was able to 
disassemble and clean/oil/grease one of them to my satisfaction, however - when 
reassembling the first winch I realized that, while definitely smoother 
internal operations, it still squeaks!

 

I think I've traced it to the line lifter rubbing on the clamp ring (see manual 
here 
<http://svsoggypaws.com/files/Winches/Barient%2027%20ST%20Winch%20Service%20Manual.pdf>
 ). I didn't think I needed to remove the line lifter originally, but after 
tracing the squeak there I wasn't able to unscrew it (the manual says to tap it 
with a soft hammer - hitting it rather hard with a soft hammer didn't help 
either).

 

Does anyone else have these winches on their boat? Anybody else had this 
problem?

 

Andrew

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