Our boat sings also. On Shift, it's definitely the rigging. At certain wind
speeds and direction, there is a very noticeable hum. Lashing a boathook to
the port shrouds helps a lot, but sometimes nothing stops it.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 at 17:15, dwight veinot via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I guess it’s what works best for you. I have a 3 blade autoprop and trans
> in forward while under sail is best. The diff between reverse or neutral
> and forward is increased speed and no propellor noise. For example Sailing
> to weather at 5.5 in neutral or reverse will almost instantaneously go 6 or
> better when shifted into forward and slight rotational sounds disappear. I
> call it “passing gear”
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 3:48 PM George Cone via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I thought over the years the accepted recommendation was to put it into
>> Reverse?
>>
>>
>>
>> George Cone
>>
>> 1981 C&C 40
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> *On Behalf Of *Marek
>> Dziedzic via CnC-List
>>
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2020 2:42 PM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C&C 35 Mark III
>>
>>
>>
>> Most (as in "check your transmission manual") transmission manuals call
>> for a neutral gear, when sailing. Iirc, Yanmar had a special bulletin where
>> they said that if you don't sail in neutral, they would void your warranty
>> (like this really matters for our boats).
>>
>>
>>
>> Marek
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>>
>> From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>
>> Date: 2020-06-17 13:05 (GMT-05:00)
>>
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>
>> Cc: Bill Coleman <colt...@gmail.com>
>>
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 35 Mark III
>>
>>
>>
>> I see.
>>
>> I just mention it, because I think from past discussions there was
>> mention that shafts spinning in neutral could damage the Transmissions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
>> <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *schiller via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2020 12:09 PM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* schiller
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C&C 35 Mark III
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> It is a two blade fixed prop.  It spins!
>>
>> The singing is probably around 400 hz.  I might use my phone with the db
>> app and find what actual frequency it is.  It is not a concerning sound,
>> just wondered if we are unique.
>>
>> I have thought about a geared feathering prop but the boat bucks always
>> make me keep thinking.  Grace was never raced and has a fixed prop, no
>> adjustable backstay adjuster and fixed babystay adjustment.  I can live
>> with those though I have thought about prop and hydraulic backstay adjuster.
>>
>> Neil Schiller
>> 1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
>> Whitehall, Michigan
>> WLYC
>>
>> On 6/17/2020 9:40 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List wrote:
>>
>> I don’t think your shaft should be spinning.
>>
>> Can’t you put it in reverse to stop the shaft from spinning, then
>> neutral? Or do you not have a folding prop –
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill Coleman
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
>> <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *schiller via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2020 7:38 AM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* schiller
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C&C 35 Mark III
>>
>>
>>
>> Ron,
>>
>> Yes.  We sail with the transmission in neutral and can tell that the
>> shaft is spinning.  We noted it the day that we sailed here home almost
>> three years ago.  We tried to locate the source when we first heard it but
>> can't really locate the source.  She sings on both tacks.  It doesn't
>> concern us that she does this.  Just curious if she is unique.
>>
>> Neil Schiller
>> 1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
>> Whitehall, Michigan
>> WLYC
>>
>> On 6/17/2020 1:14 AM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List wrote:
>>
>> Does it always happen at that speed; in other words, does a different
>> alignment of the prop change anything?
>> Ron
>> Wild Cheri
>> C&C 30-1
>> STL
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 16, 2020, 08:11:05 PM CDT, Graham Collins via CnC-List
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Neil
>>
>> No singing on hull #11.  We originally had a 2 blade fixed prop, and now
>> are running a Kiwi Prop.
>>
>> Graham CollinsSecret PlansC&C 35-III #11
>>
>> On 2020-06-16 7:22 p.m., schiller via CnC-List wrote:
>>
>> OK Mark III owners, our C&C 35-3 "signs" with speeds between about 4.5 to
>> 5 knots.  It is a definite harmonic signing that I have never been able to
>> isolate.  We have a 2 blade fixed prop and sail with the transmission in
>> neutral.  I am not complaining, I love it when she goes into singing mode.
>> It goes away above 5 knots and there is no impediment to exceeding that
>> speed.  My question is if "Grace" is unique or does anyone else show this
>> phenomena?
>>
>> BTW, we noted no singing when we hit 7.7 knots Sunday afternoon.
>>
>> Neil Schiller
>> 1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
>> Whitehall, Michigan
>> WLYC
>>
>>
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