Yes, that was on a rudder for a 39 that the original owner had the barn door
rudder upgraded at Bruckmans. The first year I had it,  half the rudder was
missing in the fall, pretty much like the picture we just saw. 

It went from around 140# to a hundred pounds, it was virtually weightless in
the water. I could hold it with my fingernails straight up submerged. 

14 Gauge SS. 

 

Bill Coleman

Erie PA

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della
Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 9:47 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Della Barba, Joe
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35 MkII Rudder removal.

 

Didn't someone get stainless ribs cut to a NACA airfoil, weld them onto the
original rudder shaft, and then skin both side with thin stainless
sheetmetal?

That actually sounds pretty light.

 

 

Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I

www.dellabarba.com

 

 

 

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Risch via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 9:24 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: David Risch <davidrisc...@msn.com>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List 35 MkII Rudder removal.

 

Interesting reveal as to how our rudders are constructed.  Years ago a  C&C
41 replaced their rudder with a high tech one prior to a BMD race.  Damned
thing fell apart on the way back.  I think I would rather rebuild what we
have and carry the weight around.

Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you. 

 

  _____  

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Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 9:11:15 AM
To: Garry Cross <garr...@gmail.com>
Cc: Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com>; cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35 MkII Rudder removal. 

 

Makes sense. There is a C&C here that had its rudder replaced a number of
years ago with a flat metal plate (with a few stiffeners on the sides) with
the same outline as the original rudder.  It works for them.  Looks weird
though.

 

Ken H.

 

On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 at 22:45, Garry Cross <garr...@gmail.com> wrote:

To be honest, I did not notice. I may have wondered why boat speed or why
wind angle I expected could not be achieved. 

I think backing up was more of an issue. 

That big steel blade worked pretty well. Frankly couldn't say how long it
was like that. Somewhere between launch and haul out. 

 

 

 

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 3:59 PM Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com> wrote:

Wow.  What did it feel to steer with it like that?  Did it feel like there
was still a rudder of sorts connected to it? 

 

Ken H.

 

On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 at 13:56, Garry Cross via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Thanks for the feedback. 

Turns out the hardest part was crawling in and out of that tight space.
Especially on the starboard side. Not much room between fuel tank and
quarter birth. 

I was thinking I could leave the quadrant on but then realized I have to
take the key out of the shaft. Undid the 4 bolts and one cable and it fell
right off, Key came out no problem. 

I had already undid the set screws and collar at the top. I had it back on
again while I worked on the quadrant. After taking it off again, with a
little rotation to free up the surface tension it began to slide out on its
own. The boat on the cradle was high enough that I did not have to dig a
hole. Here is a link to show why I had to take it out. Frost had taken its
toll and a heavy close haul was all that was need to tear the fiberglass
skin and some foam off the steel blade. 

There are some pictures here of the quadrant, top of post and rudder. 

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1l4qMR5c9EUig7z1T4G1r97X9uSPagWU_
<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=de28182a-835b8b4b-de28315d-ac1f6b44e8
6e-d00a14fbec5a86e8&q=1&e=1aaed381-0a94-4f6f-b06e-a18f657a87e5&u=https%3A%2F
%2Fdrive.google.com%2Fopen%3Fid%3D1l4qMR5c9EUig7z1T4G1r97X9uSPagWU_> 

 

I'm hoping it can be re-skinned. 

 

 

 

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From: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com>
To: CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: 
Bcc: 
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 15:55:14 -0500
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35 MkII Rudder removal.

Does it have a collar on top of the rudder tube?  My 35-1 does.  Must be
removed before dropping rudder. 

 

For a picture, scroll down to about Page 14 here:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=115qLR3c13N2THCRpsOF-7UGGJBweFXfd
<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=f5f9fe10-a88a6d71-f5f9d767-ac1f6b44e8
6e-f78a306d19b7cf5f&q=1&e=1aaed381-0a94-4f6f-b06e-a18f657a87e5&u=https%3A%2F
%2Fdrive.google.com%2Fopen%3Fid%3D115qLR3c13N2THCRpsOF-7UGGJBweFXfd> 

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 2:19 PM Garry Cross via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Hi all, I started the process of removing my rudder. I have loosened the
quadrant and cables attached to it and removed the bearing on the top of the
rudder. Should it now just drop out? What else needs to be done?. 

 

Thanks all. 

 

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