Thanks for your perspectives.
I admit that I had not considered that freshening up the boat as I planned
would diminish the value--given the sorry state of the water stained teak my
thought was that it would increase the value!
My thoughts were that something needs done with the current teak in the
boat--especially the main cabin where the water stains are--and that in order
to do the teak with varnish, the stains and the teak really need cleaned
up--far beyond just doing interior varnishing over a previously varnished teak.
My teak was never varnished, only left natural with very occasional oil rubbed
on--maybe twice in 25 years.
Given the stains, my guess is that cleaning them up for varnish application
would likely double the cost of the refresh since the surface prep would be
extensive and then there are multiple varnish coats to be addressed. After
likely 5+ boat bucks, I am left with a likely very pretty, shiny AND dark teak
interior. I have not been to any boat shows lately, but all the ads for boats
show pictures with light, airy, bright interiors. I think that might make my
1995 model look more like a 2015 or 2020 model boat down below, as opposed to a
1985, 1975 or even older boat. Of course, I could be totally wrong in this
since I have only sold ONE boat in my life!
Painting the faces of the teak doors (both cabin and storage), drawers, etc.
and leaving the remaining teak alone appears to me to keep the cost reasonable
AND add substantial brightness to the cabin. BTW, my head was finished by the
factory in a similar manner--almost all the surfaces are off-white (Formica or
painted wood--not sure)--only the cabinet handles and trim are teak and it
still looks great.
I am faced with trade-offs of cost vs. change in value (+ or -). I doubt that
any varnish or paint job will add or subtract substantially to the boat value
at sale time--its more a matter of "...the lesser of two weevils..." to copy
from Patrick O'Bryan. If I am right or even close to it, I need to get the best
refresh for the money and to me that seems like paint vs. varnish--although I
still cringe a little when I think of painting over mostly solid, is seriously
stained, teak!
FWIW,
Charlie Nelson1995 C&C 36 XL/kcbNew Bern, NC
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From: David Risch via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
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Sent: Sat, Feb 29, 2020 4:51 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Interior teak painting
Charlie,
On my 1981 40 I painted part of my head and the countertops of the galley.
They were, of all things, teak.
I would not, however, go to the extreme you speak of unless you are keeping it
forever...to Neals point.
Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.
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Charlie, Good luck, just realize that your boat value will be diminished.
Neil1982 C&C 32 FoxFireRock Hall, MD Yacht Broker From: CnC-List
<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> On Behalf OfCharlie Nelson via CnC-List
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Subject: Stus-List Interior teak painting Thanks to all who responded to my
email regarding my interior teak water stains. It certainly would be a big job
to remove them and then I would need to redo all the interior teak with a
varnish, etc. The result would be spectacular (probably) but in the end I
would have a pretty dark (but shiny!) cabin and be many boat bucks/hours
poorer. Thus I have decided to go with painting most of the interior teak and
just leaving the teak 'trim' pieces in their original condition (or doing them
with Epiphanes), including the the louvers in the cabin doors and cabinet
doors, etc. This would lighten up and make the cabin look a lot more modern
than redoing all the teak. My 1995 36 XL/kcb has a whole bunch of teak and teak
looking plywood inside!! I am thinking of some kind of semi-gloss interior
paint that will stand up to inevitable water leaks with a color that is close
to my Corinthian (?) counter tops. Joe Della Barba evidently used latex
semi-gloss in a similar way for painting water stained teak in his boat's head
with success. If anyone else who has done something similar or has considered
it, I would appreciate your thoughts on my plans. My current thinking is to do
the painting as planned and then decide what, if anything, to do with the
remaining teak trim. Also, I may paint the interior fiberglass (cabin
'ceiling') to freshen it up some as well--probably in the same color
(off-white). Thanks, Charlie NelsonWater Phantom1995 C&C XL/kcb
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From: Della Barba, Joe <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
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Sent: Thu, Feb 13, 2020 5:35 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Interior teak water stainsI was half expecting the paint
not to stick, but it did. I sanded a bit and wiped down with acetone and on it
went. Latex is easy to work with as a winter project, you can leave the heat on
and not poison yourself or blow yourself up. Also very easy to touch up and
cheap by boat standards. You do get a “brushed” look, if you want perfect
mirror gloss you probably need a yacht type enamel.JoeCoquina From: CnC-List
<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>On Behalf Of Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 5:15 PM
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Cc: cenel...@aol.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Interior teak water stains You got me
thinking that this may work for me—paint it white except for teak trim. That
might eliminate the stains by painting over them and then just
sand/varnish/cleanup the teak trim. Do I need any surface prep on the teak
(oiled ~8+ years ago) before I paint?Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Tuesday, February 11, 2020, Della
Barba, Joe via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Perhaps not what you want to hear, but I used gloss white latex porch paint in
the head on water stained teak and it worked great. Joe Della Barba Coquina
C&C 35 MK Iwww.dellabarba.com From: CnC-List
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 5:09 PM
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Cc: cenel...@aol.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Interior teak water stains My interior teak has
never been varnished or polyurethaned (?)--It was originally oiled and I
re-oiled it once or twice many years ago. I would like to apply some Epiphanes
to all of it--and there is a lot of it inside my 1995 C&C! However, much of it
has 'water stains' from various leaks over the years--most of which are now
sealed. My question for the list is how or whether to remove these
stains--they are not like water marks left by a glass on a wooden table. They
are mostly on vertical surfaces and run vertically. There are enough of them to
make sanding them a formidable job so I want to be sure that sanding would be
necessary. Some web videos show using heat (iron, blow dryers, etc.) to drive
the remaining water out and make the stain disappear which is easy enough to
try. Anyone on the list have suggestions to reduce the scale of this
job--putting several coats of varnish on all of it would be a formidable job in
itself--adding sanding to the surface prep, which I realize is probably the
most important part of the job, could make it virtually impossible! Charlie
NelsonWater Phantom1995 C&C XL/kcb
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