I actually read something about this noise several years ago when I first
looked into LEDs.  The issue is the driver, not the LED itself.  

The driver is what converts the 12/24V from your battery bank to the 3/5V
that the LED chip uses.  The driver is built into the bulb in most cases.
So unless you buy super cheap bulbs, you shouldn't have a problem with it.

The same problem exists for the cheap USB power adapters that you can plug
into your cigarette lighter in the car to charge your cell phone.
Speaking of which, if you have problems with your TPMS in your car, the
first thing to do is to disconnect any chargers you have plugged in and
see if the problem goes away after driving for a little bit.

In cars, the noise of the alternator is basically amplified and broadcast
as RF static by the USB power adapter.  

In boats, you may need to test a couple of things to find out where the
noise is generated.  

But you likely won't find the problem when you are just running off
battery power because it is clean DC power already.  When you are running
off shore power or the alternator from your motor is when you might notice
the noise from the LEDS.  

The first is to test while running the motor.  The voltage regulator in
the alternator gets you your DC voltage out, but it usually isn't the
cleanest and has ripples in the flow that imitate AM noise.

The second is to test while on shore power.  The inverter that you use to
run the lights when you are one shore power works the same way as the
voltage regulator on the alternator works, it takes an AC power source and
converts it to DC.  A good quality inverter will have very little
fluctuation in the 12V DC that it provides, but cheap inverters can put
out a lot of noise that the LED's drivers will amplify.

If you have a problem with interference it will be caused by one of these
two devices.

One way to combat the noise is to get some RF chokes and put them on each
of the lights' power lines.  Typically you want them as close to the end
of the run as possible so that the wire doesn't pick up RF along the way
to the LED, but sometimes that just isn't feasible, so putting the RF
chokes behind or just beyond the breaker panel should get rid of most of
the noise and it is the easiest location to take care of all of them at
once.  Any RF that the wires pick up between the choke and the LED should
be minimal and really nothing more than what the LED is exposed to already
due to ambient RF in the atmosphere.

James


    On Thursday, February 6, 2020, 9:17:35 AM EST, Della Barba, Joe via
CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:  
 
  


Some LEDs produce large amounts of RFI well into the VHF spectrum.
Interference at HF frequencies is certainly an issue, but most of us
aren?t on the SSB all day and the noise is pretty obvious in SSB or AM
modes. I can turn lights on and off until it goes away.
 
Noise up into VHF is far more insidious. You might never hear it, but it
can severely de-sense FM reception anyway. AIS is tricky, no one listens
to AIS, so you will just wonder why you have no targets that are not 1
mile or less distant. LED anchor lights or masthead running lights can be
the worst of all, they are right next to the VHF antenna.
 
 ?
 
Joe
 
Coquina
 

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