Interesting you mention the CS36... the T version designed by Ray Wall is very high on my list of boats that seem to tick all the right boxes, and one that I might stretch our budget for. There is a cluster of CS boats are a local marina - three 36Ts and two 30s, but none for sale. I've only been aboard the CS27, which is not bad for a 27, but I'd like a but more space for extended cruising. The 30 is in our price range, but reportedly not as solid as the 36, and not nearly as nice to look at, imho.
On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 10:45 AM Bruno Lachance via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hahaha! This is so funny. Andrew serving the table for someone else (me) > to bash on Beneteau and Hunter and Marek really trying to literally > translate a figurative "translation" joke. > > Andrew knew I may be easy to start on that path... But... I will stick to > what I know from experience. The only boats I have seen dismasted while > sailing are all Hunter. I have seen one 35.5 broke her mast right at a > start of a local race. Bad luck? Maybe, but I have also seen two other > larger hunter that lost their rig sailing in under 20 knots wind. We have a > lot more older C&Cs in our region and I have never seen one lose their > stick. I have seen a lot with bad blisters too. But yes hunter are roomy > and affordable. > > As for Beneteau, they are different in my opinion, they made good boats > like the First 42 ( German Frers design) but they also made "sailing boats" > that would be more in their element in a trailer park. > > I quite liked some of the First, like the 29, the 345 or the 375. Those > "euro" style boats were ahead of their time like most C&Cs. But for me the > rusty iron keel and keel bolts, the moldy vinyl liner, or the glued GRP > structural grid in newer boats ( 36.7, 40.7) that traps water... always > made me come back to C&C that are not perfect, nor for everyone, but for me > they usually tick the right boxes. > > I'm sure a lot of sailors could bad mouth our boats. I have seen and > corrected some issues, but the sailing qualities are there for sure and I > think that C&Cs lines age well and still look good today. > > Every brand has its identity, + and -. As you all know it's a compromise, > it depends... we are not building a custom boat with unlimited budget! > > A friend of mine just came back from a BVIs charter on a Bali 4.0 cat. He > was so disappointed with the "sailing" part of his trip. He missed his CS36 > upwind that's all I will report. > > Bruno Lachance > Bécassine, 33-2 > New-richmond, Qc. > > > > Envoyé de mon iPad > > Le 26 avr. 2019 à 14:34, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> a écrit : > > I am not a French speaker (at least, not a francophone), but from what I > know, the name Beneteau (or rather, Bénéteau) came from the last name of > the original founder/constructor/shipwright. > > The “hunter” would be “chasseur”. If you want to stretch the similarities, > “bonneteau” is French for a three-card game, but it has nothing to do with > either Hunter or Beneteau. > > Marek > Ottawa, ON > > *From:* Andrew Burton via CnC-List > *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2019 11:52 > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Andrew Burton > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Offshore boat > > By the way, perhaps a French speaker out there (Bruno?) can tell me, is it > true that "Beneteau" is French for "Hunter?" :) > > Andy > > Andrew Burton > 139 Tuckerman Ave > Middletown, RI > USA 02842 > > www.burtonsailing.com > <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.burtonsailing.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc73481900ea145c356da08d6ca5f30a8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636918907512666034&sdata=CH%2BFr1pxQj79yCw6ea%2F44L7TuPuCAH%2FVj5GlxzOZ4PU%3D&reserved=0> > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fandrewburtonyachtservices%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc73481900ea145c356da08d6ca5f30a8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636918907512676045&sdata=c6gX1LeqxuvcmvKBYxmqHCZ9QWMc56EtQFAKOXeJVg8%3D&reserved=0> > +401 965-5260 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > -- Shawn Wright shawngwri...@gmail.com
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