Shawn That's not much money to pay for a boat. This is why you are finding issues. A 35 footer in great shape would cost much more. If you want less issues for that price consider the c&c 30.
That said I am sure you can sort through the issues at your own pace and comfort. The windows are probably the easiest. Remove outer spline, remove panes, have new panes made locally and then replace spline (rv shop) and inner gasket. Easy and cheap. Consider removing the watermaker to simplify the engine setup. You could probably sell that to recover some costs. Remove the extra batteries and tidy up electrical. Then go sailing and pick at your list of projects over the coming years. It is a boat. It is a very old boat. This is what boats are. Trust us ... we all have to deal with old boat issues even on new boats Mike Persistence 1987 Fryers 33 #16 Www.hoytsailing.com ________________________________________ From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Shawn Wright via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: April 23, 2019 11:23 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Shawn Wright Subject: Stus-List C&C 35-2 concerns We're getting down to the final days before closing on the C&C 35-2, and I'm getting a bit discouraged by the number of things needing work, and the way in which the previous owner did a lot of things: -the electrical is a mess, with the original fuse panel having quite a few additional switches, and while the original wire runs have been replaced, seeing the quality of work make me want to just rip it all out and start again. Most of it works, and the junctions are soldered/heatshrunk, but it appears that left over wire was used in many places. -the engine is *very* complex, and scary to try to comprehend, with hoses criss-crossing between the engine and both cockput locker areas for a watermaker, two heat exchangers, hot water tank, etc. Lots of valves and very little consistency in hose or valve type/diameter, and mix of plastic, steel and bronze fittings. -the engine itself is a VW 1.6 diesel, which I am intimately familiar with, having worked on many, but it's all the custom marine add-ons that worry me. It runs well, but I know that this probably the primary reason the boat has not sold for a year. Imagine a typical marine engine, then multiply the hoses and valves by 4-5x. -windows are original and completely opaque, although they amazingly don't seem to leak -it has space for 3 pairs of 6V golf cart batteries, but only 4 installed. I found the cables for the other 2 batteries lying loose, not taped, and was shocked (pun intended) to find they were live! I taped them off quickly. Stuff like this on a boat just makes me wonder what else I will find, although I've scoured the boat pretty heavily, so have probably found the worst of it. On the positive side, we took it out in the harbour today in winds of 20kn with gusts to 35 and the engine easily powered her to 5kn into the wind and 6.5kn downwind. Getting her out and back into the dock was a challenge though. I would have preferred to stay out and try sailing to see how she handled, but the owner was not keen on it. The problem is this: I have spent a year trying to find a boat, and now just want to go sailing. There is a nice looking C&C 30 for about the same price right next to it, and another across town that I looked at before, in excellent shape. Or there is an Ericson 29 that is spartan but meticulous kept for half the price. I know the Ericson is much slower (rates around 195) but they sail quite well I'm told. I'm just having a hard time coming to terms with spending $22K for a boat that needs so much work, even a 35-2. Someone who is less particular than me might not see a problem, but I suspect many others have, or the boat would have sold already. The owner already told me that even if I find problems he will not go below $21500, since he has two other buyers waiting, so I have to decide if this boat is worth it given the amount of work it will need in the future. I suspect when it comes time to sell, I will not be able to do so unless I drop a more common engine in. Buying a boat should not be this difficult! -- Shawn Wright shawngwri...@gmail.com<mailto:shawngwri...@gmail.com> _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
