Hi Eric, Thanks for sharing your experience. After spending so long finding this boat, it is hard to let it go, not knowing when another might come along. I found the 30 a bit cramped, and that was before we looked at the 35, so I suspect it would be hard to go back. I am retired, so have the time to work on things, but I don't really enjoy working on engines like I used to. Maybe I could over the winter though. Time to spend a day in the garden and digest things a bit.
Thanks. On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 9:10 PM sender via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Shawn: > 2 years ago, I also bought a 35MkII and subsequently let it go after an > unfavorable survey. It was a very difficult decision to make. I really > liked the design and solid build of the 35. In the sea trial it sailed > beautifully, exactly the way I think a boat should sail. The interior has > a good layout. > > Sounds like you've got a fair idea of some of the issues, and also the > itch to get out on the water. > > In the end for me, I knew it would completely tap out my budget, and I > would have a hard time finding the necessary time to commit to buying a > project boat. If I had deeper pockets and was semi retired or retired and > able to commit the money and enormous amount of time, I would have kept > it. People who've successfully restored boats (houses,cars etc) are > rewarded by a sense of accomplishment that's hard to compare. So my advice > would be to take those factors into consideration. > > By the time we let the 35 mkII go the few other possible boats were gone > and that was certainly a bummer. We looked at that same boat the second > the put it up for sale. We wound up having to wait until the next spring > before a very clean, well maintained C&C 32 came up that we grabbed. I'm > very happy with that decision. Ironically there's another same year and > color 32 currently on Craigslist. > > If you do look at it, the Yanmar 2GM engine should have the exhaust mixing > elbow removed and the head inspected for internal deterioration from a > cracked elbow leaking salt water back towards the head. It's an issue > known for killing that otherwise great engine. > > Eric > > On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 7:31 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Oh yeah, a few more things. I sounded the decks, and although there is >> some creaking when walking between the mast and hatch area, sounding gives >> a consistent sound. The only place that was different was around the >> chainplates, but it was almost completely just inboard and outboard of >> them, which is directly above the chainplate bulkhead, so I think that may >> be the sound difference I heard, as they were all the same. No leaks >> showing when I was on the boat all day in the rain. >> >> The port bulked shows moisture around the top edge (not bottom edge) like >> it leaked at one point but not sure where from, and the bulkheads on both >> sides of the head on port side are a bit loose at the cabin top. Tabbing is >> good, and was re-done by previous owner. Is it normal for bulkheads to be >> loose at the top? I can imagine they might move around a lot in rough >> weather like this, which doesn't seem good. >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 7:23 PM Shawn Wright <shawngwri...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> We're getting down to the final days before closing on the C&C 35-2, and >>> I'm getting a bit discouraged by the number of things needing work, and the >>> way in which the previous owner did a lot of things: >>> >>> -the electrical is a mess, with the original fuse panel having quite a >>> few additional switches, and while the original wire runs have been >>> replaced, seeing the quality of work make me want to just rip it all out >>> and start again. Most of it works, and the junctions are >>> soldered/heatshrunk, but it appears that left over wire was used in many >>> places. >>> >>> -the engine is *very* complex, and scary to try to comprehend, with >>> hoses criss-crossing between the engine and both cockput locker areas for a >>> watermaker, two heat exchangers, hot water tank, etc. Lots of valves and >>> very little consistency in hose or valve type/diameter, and mix of plastic, >>> steel and bronze fittings. >>> >>> -the engine itself is a VW 1.6 diesel, which I am intimately familiar >>> with, having worked on many, but it's all the custom marine add-ons that >>> worry me. It runs well, but I know that this probably the primary reason >>> the boat has not sold for a year. Imagine a typical marine engine, then >>> multiply the hoses and valves by 4-5x. >>> >>> -windows are original and completely opaque, although they amazingly >>> don't seem to leak >>> >>> -it has space for 3 pairs of 6V golf cart batteries, but only 4 >>> installed. I found the cables for the other 2 batteries lying loose, not >>> taped, and was shocked (pun intended) to find they were live! I taped them >>> off quickly. Stuff like this on a boat just makes me wonder what else I >>> will find, although I've scoured the boat pretty heavily, so have probably >>> found the worst of it. >>> >>> On the positive side, we took it out in the harbour today in winds of >>> 20kn with gusts to 35 and the engine easily powered her to 5kn into the >>> wind and 6.5kn downwind. Getting her out and back into the dock was a >>> challenge though. I would have preferred to stay out and try sailing to see >>> how she handled, but the owner was not keen on it. >>> >>> The problem is this: I have spent a year trying to find a boat, and now >>> just want to go sailing. There is a nice looking C&C 30 for about the same >>> price right next to it, and another across town that I looked at before, in >>> excellent shape. Or there is an Ericson 29 that is spartan but meticulous >>> kept for half the price. I know the Ericson is much slower (rates around >>> 195) but they sail quite well I'm told. I'm just having a hard time coming >>> to terms with spending $22K for a boat that needs so much work, even a >>> 35-2. Someone who is less particular than me might not see a problem, but I >>> suspect many others have, or the boat would have sold already. The owner >>> already told me that even if I find problems he will not go below $21500, >>> since he has two other buyers waiting, so I have to decide if this boat is >>> worth it given the amount of work it will need in the future. I suspect >>> when it comes time to sell, I will not be able to do so unless I drop a >>> more common engine in. >>> >>> Buying a boat should not be this difficult! >>> >>> -- >>> Shawn Wright >>> shawngwri...@gmail.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> Shawn Wright >> shawngwri...@gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. 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