Thanks for the good info on keel bolts. I will inspect carefully if we get a chance to make an offer.
I am still curious about the twin headstay/furler solent rig. I will need to confirm the inner stay is properly braced at the deck, but I am wondering about the mast, with regard to reinforcement, and running backstays (there aren't any). This modification was made by the previous owner, but the current owner indicates that the boat can fly both foresails for running. I am wondering if this places loads beyond the design on the mast and backstay. I can't find any photos showing where the inner stay is attached to the mast, but I think it is quite close to the forward stay - they are not parallel as in a cutter rig - the bottom is about 2' aft, but the top is maybe 1' below the forward stay. There is a photo here, but it doesn't show the top... http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f152/c-and-c-35-mkii-1974-a-200558.html After going aboard another 35-2, and viewing as many photos as I can find online, I think my earlier assessment of the interior was a bit harsh; a lot of what I thought was owner modifications was actually original, like the many access panels on the headliner. I've also had the benefit of another 4 months of looking at other boats, and feel this one is probably a solid boat if I can get it in the low 20s. I'm hoping to get prepared for making an offer and getting a survey on the boat, and if that doesn't happen, at least I will have learned a lot along the way. Thanks On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 9:53 AM Dave Godwin via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Shawn, > > I have unbolted and set aside my keel and can offer my observations. Our > boat, a 1982 C&C 37 came with and we sailed with, for many, many years, the > infamous "C&C smile.” Every year when pulling the boat out, the front part > of the keel/keel stub intersection would weep a bit of sea-water. Not > optimal but I let it go. Of note, no sea-water was finding its way into the > bilge from the bolts. > > Before dropping the keel I envisioned, well, had nightmares actually, that > the keel bolts would be wasted to the size of a 1/4” x 20 bolt. I was > preparing to drag the keel up to Mars Metals in Canada in order to have > them replaced. It’s been awhile but as I recall the cost per bolt to have > them replaced was under $200/bolt. > > Fortunately, this did not come to pass. Yes, there was some wasting on the > forward keel bolt but not enough to worry about and certainly not in light > of the good condition on the remaining bolts. I will bolt the keel back on > and not worry about it. Why, I might even get around to doing that this > year…. ;-) > > Link <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/2015/01/in-shed-at-last.html> to > pictures. > > Regards, > Dave Godwin > 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin > Reedville - Chesapeake Bay > Ronin’s Overdue Refit <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/> > > On Apr 5, 2019, at 11:42 AM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Hello all, > > After another 4 months of boat searching, I am once again considering the > 35-2 "Callisto" which began this old thread from January. I have been > thinking about it, and when I saw it at the dock while looking at another > boat (Crown 28, yes I am getting desperate...), I realized I had forgotten > how nice looking the boat is. It still has a for sale sign, and I am > waiting to hear back from the owner. I think at 34K he was asking far too > much, but at 20K I could overlook some of the not quite up to my standards > work done on it. I will get a survey for sure if he gets back to me, and we > can agree on a price. > Since looking at this boat, I started getting interested in Ericsons, and > really liked the idea of the encapsulated keels on their 70s models. We > almost bought a 29. But I am realizing that my fear of keel bolts is > probably unwarranted, and even Ericson went with bolt on keels by the 80s, > and none of them fell off. I hear people talk about replacing keel bolts, > but I assume they mean just the nuts, which doesn't seem to make a lot of > sense, since the crevice corrosion is likely to a problem with the > bolt/stud. Are the bolts J bolts like concrete anchors, or just threaded > rod set into lead? I imagine replacing a J bolt would be a huge job. Is > replacing them ever actually done? Could you just drill, tap, and thread in > new stainless rod in between the original bolts for extra safety? Or am I > worrying too much about a mostly non-issue? It's just that most bolt on > keel boats I've looked at have water in the bilge meaning the bolts/nuts > will stay wet most of the time (probably mainly rainwater/condensation I > guess), so it seems like I should be concerned. > > It's interesting also that after a lot of discussion with the Ericson guys > (also a great group of owners, like this group), one of the features of the > newer Ericson designs which improves comfort is the flared bow (the 80s > models), something which the C&C 35-2 also has. Walking up to this 35-2 a > few days ago just reminded me why I was so attracted to it originally. Yes, > there are a few things I would do differently, but it's basically ready to > sail, as is. > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. 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