To me it is like racing horses around a track vs. racing motorcycles,. They are both sport for sure, but they are not the SAME sport. I agree about iceboating. IIRC, iceboats were going over 100 knots when nothing else on the planet could go that fast. Joe Coquina
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 9:20 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Matthew L. Wolford Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: AC75 boats The foil boats are more like iceboating. At those kinds of speeds, it’s all about apparent wind. From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 9:10 AM To: mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Della Barba, Joe<mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: AC75 boats Not really the same thing. Going from J-Class to 12s was needed because no one could afford to race a J anymore. Both of them sail pretty much like any other boat. If you know how to sail at all, you could sail either one more or less. If you raced at all, everything they did was like something you did every day. I don’t see any reason you couldn’t grab people from a C&C rendezvous and put them on a 12 and get one around a race course in a reasonable fashion. J class multi-ton sheet loads are perhaps another story, but still a tack is a tack and port still has to duck starboard. Foiling cats running around at 30-50 knots are an entirely different universe. Racing them is a sport of some kind, but it does not resemble what we think of as sailboat racing whatsoever to me. Among all the other reasons, the traditional AC race was between boats that were very close in speed. Absolutely superb tactics and boat handling were required to keep ahead of the other boat. It was pretty rare for there to be enough speed difference for a good crew to lose to an average one. 6.9 knots losing to 7.1 knots is one thing, the 7.1 knot boat is just one mistake away from losing. 45 vs. 55 knots, well you can still crash but it isn’t at all the same. Joe Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Don Kern via CnC-List Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 4:43 PM To: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Cc: Don Kern Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: AC75 boats I bet that is similar to what was said 1900's when the America Cup boats went to cross cut sails and the Marconi rig. Then again when they went from the 12 meters to the IACC boats, never mind the foiling cats. "just saying" own Fireball for 39 years Don Kern Docent, Herreshoff Marine Museum Fireball C&C35 Mk2 Bristol, RI ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
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