The C&C40 Aft Cabin has the engine under the cockpit sole and the cockpit floor is removable.So it was not a lot of work or expense to remove the engine. Lifted it from mounts to my engine cart in one move, only paid minimum for the crane. everything went reasonably well, no cutoff wheel was required.
I do appreciate everyone's advice. A re-power is not in the cards but I am cognizant of the age (hours + calendar) on this engine. It is a struggle to limit the amount of work I want to do....the parts add up in cost especially in Canada. If anyone knows a good source for Mitsubishi small block diesels in Canada I would love to hear about it. The engine is a Mitsubishi KE 150 1.490 ltr. Westerbeke parts are priced like the are made of gold. Thanks. On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 7:46 PM <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Westerbeke W33 Advice (Bill Coleman) > 2. Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Westerbeke W33 Advice (dwight veinot) > 3. Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Westerbeke W33 Advice (svrebeccaleah) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 15:43:30 -0500 > From: "Bill Coleman" <colt...@verizon.net> > To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Westerbeke W33 Advice > Message-ID: <0a7901d49192$2d1f0f50$875d2df0$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I think you?re discounting all the work that goes into engine removal and > reinstall, it is a lot. Worse on some boats than other, of course. I am > sure you realize we are talking about a lot more then pulling a 20 dollar > bill out of your pocket. . I think you (Joe) may have done a reinstall, > and maybe some people like that work. I do it, but I don?t like it. > > Also, how long you are going to keep the boat. When you get to 4,000 Hours > on an engine, it?s kind of like hitting 65 ? you might have another 25 good > years in you, or . . . not. You?re never sure. > > There is a great feeling of confidence of leaving the dock with a new > engine. > > Also, there is always a great secondary market for good, used engines. I > sold my used Perkins on Ebay with no problem, after installing a nice, > smooth running Kubota. > > K sara, k sara. > > > > Bill Coleman > > C&C 39 Erie, PA > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della > Barba, Joe via CnC-List > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 9:53 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Della Barba, Joe > Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Westerbeke W33 Advice > > > > $20 seal vs. $10,000 engine? > > > > > > Joe Della Barba > > Coquina > > C&C 35 MK I > > > > > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill > Coleman via CnC-List > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 8:42 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Bill Coleman <colt...@verizon.net> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Westerbeke W33 Advice > > > > Wow. > > If I had gone that far, with an engine with 3K hours, there is no way that > I wouldn?t put a new engine in there. > > I have been down that road a couple times, and the time and effort . . . > The new breed of diesels are just so much nicer. > > Too bad Cummins doesn?t make small diesels. > > > > Just my opinion, of course. > > > > Bill Coleman > > C&C 39 Erie, PA > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Don > Marlin via CnC-List > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 9:26 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Don Marlin > Subject: Stus-List Westerbeke W33 Advice > > > > I pulled the engine this fall so I could work on the engine compartment. > Boat is a 40-2 Aft Cabin so engine is relatively easy to pull. > > > > Plan was/is to do basic stuff like mounts, wiring, hoses, injectors, valve > adjust. Plan is not to rebuild the engine. Engine has ~3000 hrs. Does not > seem to have any issues. > > > > The question I have for those who might know is how hard is it to change > crank seals. What special tools would I need access to? For clarity I > already have transmission, damper plate and flywheel off on the PTO side. > > Of course there is a picture :-) > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NB4JiY8mQb1Is6OXOlHCbHvwYA4hTriX/view?usp=sharing > > > > There is a small leak on PTO side. I don't think it is terrible but still > a little leak. > > Timing cover side seems to be leak free. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20181211/33992a3b/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:47:51 -0400 > From: dwight veinot <dwight...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Westerbeke W33 Advice > Message-ID: > <CAAX9F+E3UGdEiRsuygwiafCbxuFCjXkgjdyCJ1eB1vmBh9-c= > q...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Do forget Bill sometimes new stuff can be a lemon. I think he said the > engine was good except for an annoying small leak. > > On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 4:44 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > I think you?re discounting all the work that goes into engine removal and > > reinstall, it is a lot. Worse on some boats than other, of course. I am > > sure you realize we are talking about a lot more then pulling a 20 dollar > > bill out of your pocket. . I think you (Joe) may have done a > reinstall, > > and maybe some people like that work. I do it, but I don?t like it. > > > > Also, how long you are going to keep the boat. When you get to 4,000 > Hours > > on an engine, it?s kind of like hitting 65 ? you might have another 25 > good > > years in you, or . . . not. You?re never sure. > > > > There is a great feeling of confidence of leaving the dock with a new > > engine. > > > > Also, there is always a great secondary market for good, used engines. I > > sold my used Perkins on Ebay with no problem, after installing a nice, > > smooth running Kubota. > > > > K sara, k sara. > > > > > > > > Bill Coleman > > > > C&C 39 Erie, PA > > > > > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of > *Della > > Barba, Joe via CnC-List > > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 11, 2018 9:53 AM > > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > *Cc:* Della Barba, Joe > > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Westerbeke W33 Advice > > > > > > > > $20 seal vs. $10,000 engine? > > > > > > > > > > > > *Joe Della Barba* > > > > *Coquina* > > > > *C&C 35 MK I* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of > *Bill > > Coleman via CnC-List > > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 11, 2018 8:42 AM > > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > *Cc:* Bill Coleman <colt...@verizon.net> > > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Westerbeke W33 Advice > > > > > > > > Wow. > > > > If I had gone that far, with an engine with 3K hours, there is no way > that > > I wouldn?t put a new engine in there. > > > > I have been down that road a couple times, and the time and effort . . . > > The new breed of diesels are just so much nicer. > > > > Too bad Cummins doesn?t make small diesels. > > > > > > > > Just my opinion, of course. > > > > > > > > Bill Coleman > > > > C&C 39 Erie, PA > > > > > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com > > <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *Don Marlin via CnC-List > > *Sent:* Monday, December 10, 2018 9:26 PM > > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > *Cc:* Don Marlin > > *Subject:* Stus-List Westerbeke W33 Advice > > > > > > > > I pulled the engine this fall so I could work on the engine compartment. > > Boat is a 40-2 Aft Cabin so engine is relatively easy to pull. > > > > > > > > Plan was/is to do basic stuff like mounts, wiring, hoses, injectors, > valve > > adjust. Plan is not to rebuild the engine. Engine has ~3000 hrs. Does not > > seem to have any issues. > > > > > > > > The question I have for those who might know is how hard is it to change > > crank seals. What special tools would I need access to? For clarity I > > already have transmission, damper plate and flywheel off on the PTO side. > > > > Of course there is a picture :-) > > > > > > > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NB4JiY8mQb1Is6OXOlHCbHvwYA4hTriX/view?usp=sharing > > > > > > > > There is a small leak on PTO side. I don't think it is terrible but still > > a little leak. > > > > Timing cover side seems to be leak free. > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > > > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20181211/61dcb484/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 16:44:31 -0800 > From: svrebeccaleah <svrebeccal...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Westerbeke W33 Advice > Message-ID: <5c105a22.1c69fb81.8c525.8...@mx.google.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Always better to go with a known quantity. Why replace a good engine for > an annoying oil leak. While the engine is out I would freshen up the fuel > injector pump and injectors, give the heat exchanger a thorough going over, > and any other hard to service items.?Doug Mountjoy?Sv Rebecca Leah?LH39Port > Orchard YC wa. > -------- Original message --------From: dwight veinot via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Date: 12/11/18 15:47 (GMT-08:00) To: > cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: dwight veinot <dwight...@gmail.com> Subject: > Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Westerbeke W33 Advice Do forget Bill sometimes > new stuff can be a lemon. I think he said the engine was good except for an > annoying small leak.?On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 4:44 PM Bill Coleman via > CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you?re discounting all the work that goes into engine removal > and reinstall, it is a lot. Worse on some boats than other, of course.? I > am > sure you realize we are talking about a lot more then pulling a 20 dollar > bill > out of your pocket.? ?.? I think you (Joe) may have done a reinstall, and > ?maybe > some people like that work. I do it, but I don?t like it. > > Also, how long you are going to keep the boat. When you get to 4,000 > Hours on an engine, it?s kind of like hitting 65 ? you might have another > 25 > good years in you, or? . . . not. You?re never sure. > > There is a great feeling of confidence? of leaving the dock with > a new engine. > > Also, there is always a great secondary market for good, used > engines. I sold my used Perkins on Ebay with no problem, after installing a > nice, smooth running Kubota. > > K sara, k sara. > > ? > > > > Bill Coleman > > C&C 39 Erie, PA > > > > ? > > > > > > From: CnC-List > [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe via > CnC-List > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 9:53 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Della Barba, Joe > Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Westerbeke W33 Advice > > > > > > ? > > $20 seal vs. $10,000 engine? > > ? > > ? > > Joe Della Barba > > Coquina > > C&C 35 MK I > > ? > > ? > > ? > > > > > > From: CnC-List > [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Coleman via > CnC-List > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 8:42 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Bill Coleman <colt...@verizon.net> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Westerbeke W33 Advice > > > > > > ? > > Wow. > > If I had gone that far, with an engine with 3K hours, there is > no way that I wouldn?t put a new engine in there. > > I have been down that road a couple times, and the time and > effort . . . The new breed of diesels are just so much nicer. > > Too bad Cummins doesn?t make small diesels. > > ? > > Just my opinion, of course. > > ? > > Bill Coleman > > C&C 39 Erie, PA > > ? > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] > On Behalf Of Don Marlin via CnC-List > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 9:26 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Don Marlin > Subject: Stus-List Westerbeke W33 Advice > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > I pulled the engine this fall so I could work on the engine > compartment. Boat is a 40-2 Aft Cabin so engine is relatively easy to > pull. > > > > > > ? > > > > > > Plan was/is to do basic stuff like mounts, wiring, hoses, > injectors, valve adjust. Plan is not to rebuild the engine. Engine has > ~3000 > hrs. Does not seem to have any issues. > > > > > > ? > > > > > > The question I have for those who might know is how hard is > it to change crank seals. What special tools would I need access to? For > clarity I already have transmission, damper plate and flywheel off on the > PTO > side.? > > > > > > Of course there is a picture :-) > > > > > > ? > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NB4JiY8mQb1Is6OXOlHCbHvwYA4hTriX/view?usp=sharing > > > > > > ? > > > > > > There is a small leak on PTO side. I don't think it is > terrible but still a little leak. > > > > > > > > Timing cover side seems to be leak free. > > > > > > ? > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.? Each > and every one is greatly appreciated.? 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