At bottom, it depends how you intend to use the boat. I started with a Ranger
26, which was a fun boat but was too small for me. I moved up to a C&C 34,
which was good for my growing family and still manageable for me and my wife.
However, she enjoys taking friends out sailing on summer evenings, and the
cockpit of the 34 limited the number of people we could accommodate. In
addition: a) I cross Lake Erie a few times during the summer (including
racing), and there were times I wish I had a little more boat under me; and b)
I have three boys, and I wanted a boat big enough to accommodate them and their
friends if they wanted to do some racing (including overnights at other ports).
My 42 addressed all of these issues. The first time we went out, I was
concerned that I had gotten into too much boat. Now, I’m very comfortable with
it, and I’m glad to be on “the beast” when pounding through large waves. It is
more work for sure, and everything is more expensive; but for now it is still a
good fit. I will likely downsize to a newer, somewhat smaller boat with a
large cockpit as my interests change.
From: Chris Graham via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 9:53 AM
To: Richard Bush via CnC-List
Cc: Chris Graham
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?
I really do appreciate the feedback and encouragement. I watched my
father-in-law sell his beloved 27' to move up to a 34' to appease his wife who
complained that she was "hot and bobbing"...I heard the same complaints on the
the 34'er and again on their 37'. I remember him lamenting the day he sold the
27'er, and it has stuck with me ever since. I never regretted for a day
downsizing from my 34' to my 28' and felt I was getting closer to what I really
enjoyed about sailing. I have some time here to see what is out there but I
feel no real pull toward a 30' boat regardless of initial purchase price.
I am pretty steadfast in my desire to keep it small and manageable. My days of
the "bigger is better" trap is one I don't wish to fall into again ;)
I have a three bedroom house and wish I had a one bedroom!! :)
Chris
On Thursday, October 11, 2018, 9:32:55 AM EDT, Richard Bush via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
I second David's comments; when I bought my first C&C, (1982 25 II); it never
dawned on me that I would be trading up; however, there is a growth curve that
happens once you get on the boat and learn how it functions and how to use the
boat; After having the boat for several years, I was on a friend's larger boat
(a J-29), and I remember thinking (to myself)...I can handle this! Thus began
a progression similar to many on this list: (all C&C's); 25; 29, 33 and
currently, a 37:
Richard
s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 600:
Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255
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From: David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: David <davidrisc...@msn.com>
Sent: Thu, Oct 11, 2018 9:21 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?
Whether its a 30 or 27 or 26. Have patience with looking. Someone in the
next town gave away a decent 30' to a deserving family who would use and love
the boat as it was by its original owner. Its not always the money.
With that in mind look for the best whatever footage (me? go for the 30, you
will be trading up within 5 years anyway) you can find with all the work done,
sails purchased etc. and do not be afraid to have a budget that you will stick
to and offer. They can only say no. But they may say yes for non-economic
(emotional) reasons.
Lots of boats out there and lots of eyes all over the country to help if its
not local to you.
David F. Risch, J. D.
Gulf Stream Associates, LLC
(401) 419-4650
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From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> on behalf of Dave S via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 8:25 AM
To: Chris Graham
Cc: Dave S; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?
Agreed with Bruce - none of the boats in this range are too big to be easily
handled with a small crew. IMO you are unlikely to wish you’d bought a 27
after having bought a 30.
You described the condition of the 27 in some detail and it clearly needs a lot
of work. There are tons of tired boats out there, be patient. There will be
another one tomorrow.... be prepared to pay more for a very well maintained
boat - someone else’s labour of love. (Money pit)
Other thing is to make a list of the ‘must have’ equipment and be disciplined
about that too.
The cost of repair and outfitting a tired 27 will can quickly exceed its
acquisition cost.
My $.02....
Dave
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On Oct 11, 2018, at 8:10 AM, Chris Graham <sabre28...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thanks Bruce!
I’m going to be single handing 90% of the time, and storage, mooring costs,
sail replacement, etc...is another reason why I’m trying to keep the length
down.
I do understand the 30’ is a superior boat on many levels. I think I’m
committed to a smaller size though I may be convinced otherwise if something
were to present itself. :)
You nailed the price of both boats. The 26’ has cosmetic issues but can be
dropped in the water tomorrow and sailed away. Just trying to look down the
road and make the right choice.
Beautiful pacific seacraft 25’ at triple the coast but a beautiful bait with
classic lines, double ender... but I want to keep costs down! :)
Chris
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On Thursday, October 11, 2018, 7:57 AM, bwhitmore via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
I had a 1977 C&C 27 MK III for 15 years on Lake Michigan. The nice thing
about the MK III was that it had a taller rig than the one you'relooking at,
which made her a great light air performer, generally hitting hull speed of 6.4
in about 9 kts pf wind, and which would commonly sustain 7 knots. I would be
less optimistic about the MK II, and I sold mine for 8K in 2015, albeit to a
friend in very good condition. It was in very good shape but also did not have
roller furling. Given the work you're talking about, she ought to be $2,500 or
even less.
Now having a bigger boat and the affordability of older boats, I too would
recommend looking at a bigger one, or at least holding out for one in much
better condition.
Just my $.02 worth,
Bruce Whitmore
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