I did mine from above, as gravity helps and my deck had a few depressions where 
water puddled and mold grew. I needed to add some camber to the deck to avoid 
future puddles, so cutting the deck from above seemed better.


> On September 1, 2018 at 7:54 PM James Bibb via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
>     Thanks Chuck.  
> 
>     I’d like to follow your experience.  Are you attacking this from the top 
> or bottom?  It’s getting into the late summer up here in SE Alaska and I’m 
> trying to gauge whether this is doable in the off-season.  Clear, warm 
> weather is hard to come by up here.  I could tent and  heat but my thought is 
> to heat the interior even though I’ve been reading about how difficult it is 
> to do working underneath.  
> 
>     Thanks again for the follow up.  
> 
>     James Bibb.  
> 
> 
> 
>         > >         On Sep 1, 2018, at 3:12 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List < 
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> > 
> >         Hi James,
> >         I replaced balsa core on my 34R around my mast collar back in 2007. 
> > I have to look on an older computer for my pictures. I wound up making a 
> > G10 boss around the deck opening and epoxying a 1/4" sleeve around the 
> > opening to protect the balsa from water.
> > 
> >         I find kevlar in every part of the boat though many people tell me 
> > it isn't required in a small patch. The stringers under the floor had at 
> > least six layers of kevlar alternating with glass and mat making 13 to 15 
> > layers total. The solid vertical parts of the cockpit and transom have 
> > glass, mat, glass, mat, kevlar, mat kevlar, mat, glass, mat, glass. The 
> > deck has 3/4" balsa and a layup that I think is glass, mat, kevlar, mat, 
> > glass above and below. That gives two layers of kevlar to the composite 
> > structure. If you follow best practices and grind the skin to a 12:1 bevel 
> > recommended by West System you will see the layers.
> > 
> >         I'll try to find pictures and send them to your email.
> > 
> >         Good luck with your project. I have about six feet of each of my 
> > side decks to do this fall.
> > 
> > 
> >             > > > On August 31, 2018 at 9:05 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List < 
> > cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> > > 
> > >             Mine is a 37+ but I presume that much of the design and 
> > > construction is similar.
> > > 
> > >             The design notes regarding Kevlar have it as part of the 
> > > layup. I think Ken Heaton might have a better idea but the idea is that 
> > > the Kevlar simply makes up some of the layers of matting/roving in the 
> > > fiberglass. I would expect it in the hull and would not be surprised to 
> > > see it in the deck. Hard to say if it would be preferentially placed in 
> > > the inner or outer skin.
> > > 
> > >             As for the core,  I was anticipating deck rot when I had my 
> > > mast pulled.  To my pleasant surprise the cabin top directly around the 
> > > mast is not cored.  Throughout the boat you can see where coring starts 
> > > and stops by the thickness changing.  A perfect example is near the toe 
> > > rail.  There is a 3" wide deck section all the way around the boat.  I 
> > > thought it was just a gutter.  It is, but it is also an area which is not 
> > > cored.  Same thing in the anchor locker as the hull walls approach the 
> > > toe rail.  Repairs from in the cabin have the challenge of not having 
> > > direct access to the cabin top since there is a "headliner".  You can 
> > > inspect and get an idea of what lies ahead but in order to re-core you 
> > > would want unfettered access to the entire area of rot.  You'd be best 
> > > cut around the rim to remove the entire headliner.  I do like the idea of 
> > > not disturbing the outer skin.  If you end up going the outside route I 
> > > suggest trying to keep as much of the skin together as a single piece or 
> > > symmetrical pieces.  A product I like that can finish off this type of 
> > > work is kiwi-grip.  It is a urethane non-skid with a thick coat and 
> > > variable texture.  It covers seams in the skins great.
> > > 
> > >             Rig-rit sells mast boot tape which I like.  Black 2mm thick, 
> > > 5' wide. http://www.rigrite.com/Spars/SparParts/Mast_boot_%20Tape.php
> > > 
> > >             As much as I liked the product, when I had my mast re-stepped 
> > > the yard used what they had and it seemed like almost exactly the same 
> > > except that it was even wider - Like 6 or 7 inches.  Call Zanhizers in 
> > > Solomons MD and they can probably send you a roll.  You might have to 
> > > talk to Phil or Jack.
> > > 
> > >             Josh Muckley
> > >             S/V Sea Hawk 
> > >             1989 C&C 37+
> > >             Solomons, MD 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >             On Fri, Aug 31, 2018, 8:27 PM James Bibb via CnC-List < 
> > > cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> > > 
> > >                 > > > > I have some soft deck repair anticipated around 
> > > my mast opening…above head on port cabin leading edge where folks jump 
> > > the halyards and foredeck area where the bowman has been working since 
> > > 1991.
> > > > 
> > > >                 1991 C&C 34-36R so the deck is composite. I assume also 
> > > > of the most part however the brief design notes mention a mixture of 
> > > > kevlar and balsa.  Does anybody know where the distinction is around 
> > > > the boat? 
> > > > 
> > > >                 I’ll be removing the mast for this work. 
> > > > 
> > > >                 Also…from below or above?  I really want to leave the 
> > > > gelcoat intake and if I can work on the boat over the next few 
> > > > months…have the heated cabin environment to help curing.
> > > > 
> > > >                 Anybody been down this road?
> > > > 
> > > >                 Also….need to find a replacement mast boot.  The 
> > > > current one is worn and needs replacing.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >                 Thanks!
> > > > 
> > > >                 James Bibb
> > > > 
> > > >                 SV Darwins Folly
> > > >                 1991 C&C 34-36R
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