Bruce;
If you have a Beta, Universal, or Westerbeke engine, there is an oil extraction hose routed from the back of the oil pan (the low point) to the front of the engine that you use for removing the oil. On the Betas, there is a pump connected to that hose (which is a really nice feature). I have a Universal, and drain the hose into an oil change pan; but you can also connect it to a FLOCS (Fast Lube Oil Change) pump to extract the oil. So you basically get all the old oil out. My 36HP Universal M35B is a marinized Kubota 4 cylinder engine (and the 4 cylinder 35 HP Beta uses the same base Kubota engine). The dip stick on my Universal is different than the dipstick on the Kubota tractors. Something I noticed when using a rental Kubota tractor loader backhoe for a landscaping project. An when changing oil, be sure to determine if you should add the volume of the filter you just changed to the listed engine capacity. I found that for my engine, putting 4 quarts of oil in after a change (rather than the 3.5 qts listed capacity) fills the filter and brings the oil level to slightly over the top mark on the dipstick. YMMV Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of bwhitmore via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 5:37 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: bwhitmore <bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List Oil pressure and smoke Ok, let's think about this, and I'm asking a question, not disagreeing. If one sucks out the oil on an engine at an angle, then there is likely a pool of old oil left in the rear of the engine, so you don't get all of it out.. Do you add back the full spec amount per the manual, then be comfortable that it's right based on the new, presumed correct dipstick level? After all this time, why haven't we been told about this before, or even advised of it by folks like Beta who specialize in marine engines? What is the difference in dipstick readings that we would be looking at? I've always been told, (and tend to agree) that overfilling oil is worse than running at the low end of the full range. That said my dad had an old jet boat with a gas engine that would take a bit to get up on plane, and if the oil wasn't kept really full, the engine oil pump would suck air and it would lose oil pressure... I'm very interested in the owners thoughts on this subject, Bruce Whitmore Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Date: 7/31/18 2:04 PM (GMT-06:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com <mailto:dziedzi...@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Oil pressure and smoke Keep in mind that most of our inboard engines are mounted at an angle. And also most come from a tractor industry, where they were designed to be used flat. This means that in many (most?) cases, the dipstick shows an incorrect level of oil (usually lower than it should be). You have to find out what is the right level on the dipstick in your particular engine. Sucking out or draining the oil is certainly one way of figuring this out. Marek From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 09:06 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Della Barba, Joe Subject: Re: Stus-List Oil pressure and smoke Check the dipstick and then suck the oil out and see how much you really have. Joe Coquina _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray <https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray&data=02%7C01%7C%7C8f08f828f9d84c5b0bfb08d5f6e6777c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636686392056691040&sdata=YQeNkBDgvu9r4zpxU3J3qeg81gpjNqj9MeB4WfAuiZY%3D&reserved=0> &data=02%7C01%7C%7C8f08f828f9d84c5b0bfb08d5f6e6777c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636686392056691040&sdata=YQeNkBDgvu9r4zpxU3J3qeg81gpjNqj9MeB4WfAuiZY%3D&reserved=0
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