I feel your pain. Been there done that. $30,000 later and the boat was like new again. I love insurance.
Fred Hazzard S/V Fury C&C 44 Portland Or On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 10:55 AM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > David > > I'll echo the others. We have all grounded or will. On my 35MK1 I hit > the rocks outside of Pervost Harbor in the San Juan Islands. Fortunately > aside from some ribs on me and bending the wheel, the boat handled it way > better than we did. I was fortunate to able to back out without incident. > > I have no idea what the tidal range is where you are. But on reading your > account and with the usual 20/20 hindsight in full play here, I have to > wonder if just waiting out the tide cycle may have been a better option. > > Hope it all turns out for you and Aries! > > Tom B > > At 09:49 AM 7/16/2018, you wrote: > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 12:38:23 -0400 > From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > > Subject: Re: Stus-List Catharsis message > > Message-ID: > < > ca+zacrbui68zss1k9kj7ums-jnp3srxxu2f7u49oetxy3+8...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Ugh! Sorry for your misfortune. I believe there are sailors who have run > > > aground and those that will. The severity is the only differentiation. In > the Chesapeake, fortunately we have very little rock or reefs. In Solomons > we have a number of shole areas in which we sail around regularly. Even > when aware of the hazards I have occasionally found myself being slipped > below the line created by the navaids. I ha e to remember not to focus > exclusively on the one i front of me but the one behind as well. > > Whether driving on the road or the water my dad always said look ahead and > make sure to have and exit strategy - a place to bail out. Your experience > is a sobbing reminder. Is it safe to assume that you have a chartplotter > at the helm? I believe some chartplotters have the ability to alert you to > hazards (minimum depth, collision avoidance, danger zones, etc.) Maybe > look into these features in the future. > > > All then best, > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > > > > On Mon, Jul 16, 2018, 11:19 AM David Knecht via CnC-List < > > > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > It is a sad morning here and I need some help to drag me out of my > > depression. This list is my support group, advisers, experts and > > therapists. Or maybe you will kick my butt for being an idiot and that > > could help as well. Aries had a serious grounding on a reef on Saturday > > and is currently awaiting insurance to start assessing the situation. We > > were barely towed off the reef by SeaTow and the boat is on the hard at a > > local marina. The damage is worse than I had hoped and better than it > > could have been. When they were able to pull us off the lip of the reef > > (tide going out, getting desperate) the rudder hit the reef and bent the > > shaft, damaged the hull around the shaft and pushed the rear tip of the > > rudder up through the hull. The bottom of the wing keel is also chewed > > up from grinding on the reef. That sound of hull grinding over rock is > now > > forever seared into my brain. South Shore yachts actually lists the > rudder > > on their site (thanks to the list for making me aware of their C&C > parts), > > and I am hoping there is nothing else damaged that was not obvious. No > one > > was hurt, except my pride and confidence. Leaving the marina, I now have > > an appreciation for the emotions of people who abandon their floating > homes > > at sea. At least I will hopefully get mine back. > > > > I have gone over the incident a thousand times trying to understand what > > happened and how I could have prevented it. I thought I was hyperaware > of > > all the hazards in the Fishers Island Sound area and swore that I would > > never ground the boat again after an incident with an unmarked reef > during > > a race a few years ago. I try to race with a priority of safety, fun and > > speed, in that order. I almost always have crew who are not sailors > other > > than racing with me, which I enjoy, but takes some of my focus away from > > other things. We had spent the day in a long race all over Fishers > Island > > sound. It was blowing 15+ and we had worked very hard to get around the > > course and the last leg was a straight downwind sprint to the finish > > heading due North toward the CT coast. With 3 inexperienced crew I was > > happy that we were in second place in our class and focused on getting to > > the line. We crossed the line, then jibed over to head back west to > > parallel the coast to our home port of New London and had just taken a > deep > > breath, congratulated the crew when we hit the reef. It turns out that > the > > Race Committee had set the finish line inshore and just East of the > single > > offshore buoy marking Horseshoe Reef. I never saw (or recognized) the > buoy > > because it was behind the mainsail as we approached the finish and I was > > looking for the finish line, not other buoys. By the time we jibed, it > was > > essentially over my shoulder. I did not see the buoy until I looked > around > > when we hit the reef and realized where we were. A hundred yards inshore > > and we would have been fine and a hundred yards offshore and we would > have > > seen the buoy and passed the correct side of it. I think the Race > > Committee deserves some part of the blame for setting the finish line in > a > > dangerous location but certainly my lack of awareness of where I was > > relative to dangers (of which there are many in Fishers Island Sound) was > > the major factor. If I had looked carefully at the chart at any point, I > > presume I would have recognized the danger of the finishing area, but we > > were closely following the lead boat and so our location was not an issue > > until we finished. I was in familiar waters but I just did not recognize > > precisely where I was in familiar waters. The other boats near us turned > > East while we turned West so we were not following anyone after the turn. > > > > If anyone has any suggestions, comments or strategies to help prevent > > this, I am all ears. A moments inattention is all it took and it makes > me > > concerned about several factors- age, racing with non-sailor crew, racing > > in general. In our Wednesday night races, we race around the same marks > > every week, and it has taken time, but I now think I know every hazard > and > > am aware of where we are relative to them while also keeping on top of > the > > boat and crew. This was an area I have sailed in many times but rarely > > race there. Also in terms of the incident itself, if Seatow had not > > happened to be in the area and seen us and we were not able to get the > boat > > off the reef until the next high tide, I have no idea what we would have > > > done. I know I have learned from other people?s disasters (always the > > > > first thing I read when a new Sail magazine is delivered), so maybe this > > will help someone else not have this happen or make someone feel better > > about things that have happened to them. > > > > > Relevant to the issue of thinking you know where you are when you don?t, > > if you have not read Laurence Gonzales?s book Deep Survival, I highly > > > > recommend it. He talks a lot about the psychology of visual perception > of > > your local environment and how it affects decisions. I think there are > > lessons there for everyone, as many of the things he alerted me to I can > > see over and over in everyday life and this is perhaps another example. > > Dave > > > > Aries > > 1990 C&C 34+ > > New London, CT > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20180716/b3f54958/attachment-0001.html > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: pastedGraphic.tiff > Type: image/tiff > Size: 6852 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20180716/b3f54958/attachment-0001.tiff > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 12:48:09 -0400 > From: schiller <schil...@bloomingdalecom.net> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > > Subject: Re: Stus-List Catharsis message > > Message-ID: <32a31a47-4367-0a71-a974-bb5edbed2...@bloomingdalecom.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > > > I definitely understand and feel your pain. Hopefully all will go well > with the insurance and repairs. > > Good luck. > > Neil Schiller > 1983 C&C 35-3, #028 > "Grace" > Whitehall, Michigan > WLYC > > .¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤. > Tom & Lynn Buscaglia > SV Alera > C&C 37+/40 > Vashon Island WA > (206) 463-9200 > www.sv-alera.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > >
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