I should qualify a few things: 1) moving my Garhauer cars forward is usually doable without a winch under most conditions (until the wind builds and we have a lot of sail up); 2) moving them aft is a bit of a pain in anything over about 10 knots; 3) I believe my Garhauer cars have ball bearings (you must slide them on the track carefully from a small piece of track provided with the car to hold the ball bearings in place); and 4) I don’t know what the current Garhauer car looks like, but unlike most adjustable cars mine will only accept one line at a time. Most cars will accept two lines in case you need to run a second one to change a sail or for some other reason.
From: Rick Brass via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 1:31 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Rick Brass Subject: Re: Stus-List Adjustable Genoa Cars, 1994 C&C 37/40+ That has not been my experience with the Garhauer cars on my 38. Moving the car forward under load is usually a 1 handed operation – though close hauled with the 155 in 15 knots did take 2. The car doesn’t come back past a certain point if you leave the control line cleated when you crank the sail in, and then release the control line. Though the point where it stops in close to average trim point. But if you uncleat the control line as you trim the sail, the car comes back as you load up the sheet and you can stop it at the proper trim by simply pulling the control line into the cam cleat. (And, of course, once you’ve adjusted the trim on STBD, you set the other car while it is not loaded up.) Then again, my Garhauer EZ G2UB cars are ball bearing cars. And the sheet lead aft of the genoa car is to a turning block on the toe rail and pretty much flush to the deck (and not rising up to the level of the winch.) Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 9:24 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Matthew L. Wolford <wolf...@erie.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List Adjustable Genoa Cars, 1994 C&C 37/40+ As much as I like my robust Garhauer cars, Ted’s observations are spot on. We have to put a winch on fore and aft movement under a heavy load (even with a 4:1 purchase to go forward). From: Ted Drossos via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 8:53 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Ted Drossos Subject: Stus-List Adjustable Genoa Cars, 1994 C&C 37/40+ I had Harken adjustable cars on my C&C 29-2 and now on my C&C 110. They are expensive but they work so much better than other adjustable cars that I've used on some of my friend's boats. As a direct real world comparison, one of my friends who also had a 29-2 had Garhauer make custom genoa cars to fit on his existing Merriman tracks. The fit was great but they were extremely difficult to adjust under load. When the tension on the control line was released, the car would not move aft. Even when there was a considerable wind load on the sail which should have been enough to allow it to move on its own. He had to pull on a line that was attached to the rear of the car to move it aft. In fairness, the Garhauer cars did not have ball bearings like the Harken cars have. My present boat is approximately the same size as your boat and the loads generated by the genoa are similar too. I have no problem adjusting the lead location even when the sail is fully loaded. I would think that if you installed a Garhauer car on a boat larger than the 29-2, you may be disappointed unless you don't mind unloading the sheet before you make a forward adjustment to the car. Ted Drossos C&C 110 Lady in Red Long Island, NY -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
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