I am in for the both!
Tell me how much to ship to 21666

Joe
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of schiller via 
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Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 10:02 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Standing Rigging Question From a Former C&Cer

BTW, my rig failure was a clean bending failure right at the cross bolt for the 
spreaders and lower shroud tang.  The only reason that the upper part of the 
mast stayed above the deck was the wire main and jib halyards.  This is an area 
with a pretty high stress riser.  I cant imagine how much more difficult it 
would have been to deal with if the mast had sunk.  I'm sure we would have had 
to cut the shrouds and sails and let them sink.  Anyone need a 2010 North Main 
Sail or an older UK 150 Jib?  You cover shipping and they are yours.

Neil Schiller
Old: 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (C&C 35, Mark I)
New: 1983 C&C 35, Mark III, Hull #028
"Grace"
White Lake, Michigan
On 11/18/2017 8:12 AM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List wrote:
I have to agree with Neil.  The rigging is responsible for your primary mode of 
propulsion, and the forces are signficant.  At least down here in Florida 
(Tampa area), riggers are pretty inexpensive, and the investment is well worth 
it for peace of mind.

Just my $.02 worth,

Bruce Whitmore
1994 C&C 37/40+
"Astralis"
(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net>

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Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Standing Rigging Question >From a Former C&Cer

From somebody who has lost a rig.  Of all of the things we spend our money on, 
the rig is one where spending the money on a rigger makes sense.  It is no fun 
to be bobbing a mile off shore trying to collect rigging and sails in three 
foot waves, afraid to engage the motor for fear of tangling in lines or sails.  
Find a rigger and have him give you advice.

Neil Schiller
Old:  1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (dismasted)
New: 1983 C&C 35, Mark III, #028
"Grace"
White Lake, Michigan
On 11/17/2017 8:54 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List wrote:
Thank you for the replies.
After some research it looks like I should use double jaw toggles to connect 
the eyes of the new shrouds to the eyes in the existing shroud plates.

 http://hayn.com/marine/rigging/tj.html#djt

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Yeah I kinda misinterpreted the description.  The swadged end fittings should 
be properly attached to a tang which could then be through bolted to the mast.

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017, 8:10 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
You can’t run a bolt through the eye on the end of a shroud. The tangs line up 
the direction of pull, a bolt would be getting pulled on at an angle trying to 
yank the head/nut off from one side.
Joe
Coquina

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Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 2:23 AM
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Cc: Neil Gallagher
Subject: Re: Stus-List Standing Rigging Question From a Former C&Cer

It's common to have the lowers attach directly to the spreader bracket, is it 
possible that the plate is part of the bracket? .   Further, a plain bolt 
through the mast, when tightened, could cause the walls of the mast to bend or 
collapse.  There should be a compression tube inside the mast through which the 
bolt goes to prevent that. On my mast the compression tube and bolt are 
directly in line with the spreaders, and the tang plate for the lowers is part 
of the spreader bracket.  Attaching the lowers to just a plain bolt through the 
mast doesn't seem advisable.

Neil Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY
On 11/16/2017 9:24 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List wrote:
Hurricane Irma claimed Ox, my beloved 33-1.
In its place I now have a 1979 Cal-31.
I am hoping for some sympathy-advice regarding the standing rigging on my new 
boat.
Below is the as yet unanswered question I posted on the Cal user group site:
---
Greetings,
My new-to-me 31 came with an oversized, uninstalled, brand new set of shrouds.
The mast ends have beefy eye fittings.
The existing lowers terminate with jaws that connect to rectangular plates 
(port and stbd) that are bolted together through the mast.
I am wondering if the intent was to do away with the plates and run the bolt 
directly through the four eyes (two eyes on each side, of course).  :-)
Any thoughts or ideas are most welcomed.
Cheers,
--Bob M





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