From somebody who has lost a rig.  Of all of the things we spend our money on, the rig is one where spending the money on a rigger makes sense.  It is no fun to be bobbing a mile off shore trying to collect rigging and sails in three foot waves, afraid to engage the motor for fear of tangling in lines or sails.  Find a rigger and have him give you advice.

Neil Schiller
Old:  1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (dismasted)
New: 1983 C&C 35, Mark III, #028
"Grace"
White Lake, Michigan

On 11/17/2017 8:54 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List wrote:
Thank you for the replies.
After some research it looks like I should use double jaw toggles to connect the eyes of the new shrouds to the eyes in the existing shroud plates.

http://hayn.com/marine/rigging/tj.html#djt

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

    Yeah I kinda misinterpreted the description.  The swadged end
    fittings should be properly attached to a tang which could then be
    through bolted to the mast.


    On Fri, Nov 17, 2017, 8:10 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
    <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

        You can’t run a bolt through the eye on the end of a shroud.
        The tangs line up the direction of pull, a bolt would be
        getting pulled on at an angle trying to yank the head/nut off
        from one side.

        Joe

        Coquina

        *From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
        <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *Neil
        Gallagher via CnC-List
        *Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2017 2:23 AM
        *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
        *Cc:* Neil Gallagher
        *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Standing Rigging Question From a
        Former C&Cer

        It's common to have the lowers attach directly to the spreader
        bracket, is it possible that the plate is part of the bracket?
        .   Further, a plain bolt through the mast, when tightened,
        could cause the walls of the mast to bend or collapse.  There
        should be a compression tube inside the mast through which the
        bolt goes to prevent that. On my mast the compression tube and
        bolt are directly in line with the spreaders, and the tang
        plate for the lowers is part of the spreader bracket. 
        Attaching the lowers to just a plain bolt through the mast
        doesn't seem advisable.

        Neil Gallagher
        Weatherly, 35-1
        Glen Cove, NY

        On 11/16/2017 9:24 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List wrote:

            Hurricane Irma claimed Ox, my beloved 33-1.

            In its place I now have a 1979 Cal-31.

            I am hoping for some sympathy-advice regarding the
            standing rigging on my new boat.

            Below is the as yet unanswered question I posted on the
            Cal user group site:

            ---

            Greetings,

            My new-to-me 31 came with an oversized, uninstalled, brand
            new set of shrouds.

            The mast ends have beefy eye fittings.

            The existing lowers terminate with jaws that connect to
            rectangular plates (port and stbd) that are bolted
            together through the mast.

            I am wondering if the intent was to do away with the
            plates and run the bolt directly through the four eyes
            (two eyes on each side, of course).  :-)

            Any thoughts or ideas are most welcomed.

            Cheers,

            --Bob M




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