The thing is, if you don't know the rig's age, you should be replacing it.  The 
general rule for standing rigging is to replace every 10 to 15 years.  If yours 
is frozen, chances are is original.  Replace and reset the clock so you know 
how old the rigs is. 
On my first two boats, I just swapped out the rig all at once.  on the current 
boat, I'm swapping out in increments.  It much heavier and much more expensive. 
 
Of course, my mast comes down every year so its no extra to spread the 
replacement out. 
You can either drive your rigging to rigging only in Fairhaven ma.  Or mail it 
to them for a very reasonable replacement cost.  
Danny


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-------- Original message --------From: PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Date: 8/19/17  7:42 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: PETER OCAMPO <bcwwka...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Frozen turn buckles 
Thanks for the info  will try liquid wrench first  have about 6 weeks to try 
that  

Hope it's not a full cold weld that does not sound exciting

Peter


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> On Aug 18, 2017, at 9:22 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> I hate to say this, but is it possible that you have a case of a cold weld 
> between the turnbuckle and the bolt?
> 
> Also look at the below. You may want to be careful with acetone on the deck.
> 
> Marek
> 
> 
> Penetrating Oils 
> 
> Machinist's Workshop magazine recently published some information on various 
> penetrating oils that I found very interesting. Some of you might
> appreciate this. The magazine reports they tested penetrates for break out 
> torque on rusted nuts. 
> 
> They are below, as forwarded by an ex-student and professional machinist. 
> They arranged a subjective test of all the popular penetrates with the
> control being the torque required to remove the nut from a "scientifically 
> rusted" environment. 
> 
> *Penetrating oils ........... Average torque load to loosen* 
> 
> No Oil used ...................516 pounds 
> 
> WD-40 ..................... ... 238 pounds 
> 
> PB Blaster .................... 214 pounds 
> 
> Liquid Wrench ...............127 pounds 
> 
> Kano Kroil .................... 106 pounds 
> 
> ATF-Acetone mix.............53 pounds 
> 
> The ATF-Acetone mix is a "home brew" mix of 50 - 50 automatic transmission 
> fluid and acetone. Note this "home brew" released bolts better than any
> commercial product in this one particular test. 
> 
> Our local machinist group mixed up a batch and we all now use it with equally 
> good results. Note also that "Liquid Wrench" is almost as good as
> "Kroil" for about 20% of the price. 
> 
> Steve from Godwin-Singer says that ATF-Acetone mix is best, but you can also 
> use ATF and lacquer thinner in a 50-50 mix. 
> 
> *ATF=Automatic Transmission Fluid
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of PETER 
> OCAMPO via CnC-List
> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 20:11
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: PETER OCAMPO <bcwwka...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Stus-List Frozen turn buckles
> 
> had my rig checked and rigger found turn buckles  frozen   He could tune 
> short stays but long stays no movement   He advised should be good for 20-25 
> knots but don't push it 
> 
> Is it okay to use pb blaster on turnbuckles  or is there a recommendation for 
> something else  
> 
> hate to say it winter storage  coming sooner then I want 
> 
> History of boat not known if stick has been down in 20+years     Last ten 
> guess is very light sailing  last 3 on the hard   Does not appear to ever 
> been raced 
> 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Peter
> C&c 40 1983
> Goonie island 
> Portland Maine 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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