I have a Garhauer power vang, and still find uses for my topping lift. It is handy to have around. I even use it to hold up the mast while removing or installing the boom and vang each fall and spring. It also hauls my long-range wifi up the backstay. :-)

Bill Bina


On 6/2/2017 9:42 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote:
I use both a rigid vang and topping lift. The problem is furling the main in a seaway. When you lean on the boom for support to put sail ties on as the boat rolls and pitches, the vang won't support your weight and swings to leeward while getting lower. Even cranking on the sheet won't help. Unless you're racing at a fairly high level, belt and suspenders is my recommendation.

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

    I seem to remember that the Landfall project boat is “wally bryant
    stella blue”. The documentation is outstanding.

    Also, I fail to see the need for a topping lift if the boat has a
    rigid vang. My vang (Garhauer) is spring loaded and keeps the boom
    above horizontal unless I haul it down. The topping lift
    disappeared many years ago.

    Gary

    30-1

    *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
    <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *Brian Davis
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    *Cc:* Brian Davis <brianwdavis...@gmail.com
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    *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Boom Rigging

    Thank you, Josh and John.  I really appreciate the detailed
    replies.  If you have pictures as well please email me some directly.

    Yes, Nina is a Landfall built in 1980.  I've researched her
    numbers and also have some of the original paper work.  Paul
    Eugenio who is on this list also helped confirm that last year
    after I bought her. If you all have not seen his website you
    should.  (link below)  I actually use it as a reference for other
    projects that I've done and plan to do.  He does an amazing job
    documenting his work.

    http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/p/projects.html
    <http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/p/projects.html>

    On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 9:50 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List
    <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

        Hey Brian,

        I'm back again.  You might consider using amsteel for you
        topping lift it is relatively cheap and you can do the
        splicing yourself (locked brummel eye splice with closed
        thimble). If the length is in question then use the halyard to
        pull a tape measure up the mast then walk back to the boom end
        and figure the length.  You'll want to subtract a foot or two
        so that the boom has room to be lifted.

        Use a bosun's chair to attach one end to the top of the mast.

        Mine is rigged the same a John Stanford describes.  Mine is
        cleated on the boom just forward of the dodger.

        Now that others are mentioning it,g the boat in the picture
        looks a lot like my 37+.  1989 was the first year for the 37+
        and was the successor to the 37 but also brought with it
        characteristics of 40.  Is there a chance that yours is a 37?

        Looks like we all answered your question.  Any others?

        Josh Muckley

        S/V Sea Hawk

        1989 C&C 37+

        Solomons, MD

        On Jun 1, 2017 2:31 PM, "Brian Davis via CnC-List"
        <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

            Greetings everyone,

            I'm in search of a good schematic for redoing the rigging
            on my LF 38.  I have the manual and it shows some length
            measurements, but I'm not fully educated on the terms. The
            only thing holding up the boom now is the old rope guides
            that keep the main from falling on the deck.  When I
            bought her the SS cable that connects the back of the boom
            to the top of the mast was off and stowed below and there
            is only a connector on one end and bare wire on the other.
            Not sure how it connects to the boom...etc.  I see a cheek
            block that I need to replace on the boom near the mast.  I
            want to rig it the proper and best way, but I don't have
            any good drawings and just looking for some guidance.

            Regards,

--
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            1980 C&C Landfall 38

            "Nina"

            Southeast Florida

            
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