Kevin, I have both symmetrical and and a new asym on Windstar - a 1985 33-2 that I bought in '13. Like you I use mine for recreation, in light air, not ocean racing with a crew, and I sail out of Whitby so similar conditions.
For the downhhaul, there is a padeye mid-foredeck but it can also be clipped to the rail. (I use a snatch block) I really don't think it's that critical as long as the lead and load makes sense. (the line runs to a lower bridle on the pole or to another attachment point, also impacting the lead, so you want to consider the whole system. I don't think I'd bore any holes until you get a rig more or less working, you are not optimizing a racing machine for quick gybing/deployment. (yet) The downhaul runs aft along the deck to a cam cleat on the side of the cabin top, The pole attaches to the mast with a ring on a sliding track. I would think the ability to adjust the pole height is more critical with a symmetrical, so there is more complexity in rigging. An asym with its whisker pole might get by with a ring at a fixed height. Others will know more about this than I. You can adjust the downhaul and topping lift from the cockpit, but the pole base is tweaked at the mast. IF you "launch"/douse the spin from a sock, you will need to thing about the lines and process involved, and rig accordingly. If you are down this way, I'd be happy to show you how the topping lift, downhaul, etc were rigged from the factory, maybe you can scale off some dimensions. I can post photos to my blog at some point if you'd like. I have not yet used the asym, but have sailed (not raced) with the symmetrical, always shorthanded, and sometimes singlehanded, which is probably not the wisest thing, but it does have its entertaining moments. These are powerful sails. As the wind builds and you will gain a new appreciation for apparent vs true wind when running... (and think about the otherworldliness of an IMOCA racer or similar that runs at 20+ knots in say 40kts of true wind). I have yet to fly the spin with both sheets and guys, though I have both. I have not read all the replies to you post, but used symmetrical spinnakers and poles are commonly found on Kijiji for a fraction of the cost of new. Asymmetricals, not. This may have some bearing on your decision. Fun stuff to play with. Dave ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Bcc: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 18:36:41 -0400 Subject: Re: Stus-List spinnaker rig On Apr 28, 2017 7:41 AM, "Kevin Deluzio via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hi All, > This is my second season with my new to me 1980 30-1. I would like > to rig it for a spinnaker this year. Not interested in racing with one, but > I like the idea of using it for light winds downwind sailing. So I have to > install a block for the pole lift and I’m wondering where to install it. In > the C&C manual it shows the pole lift at 22’-0” above the ‘black line’ at > base of mast. But I don’t have a black line on my mast, not at the base > (which I assume is around the height of boom?) nor at the top of my mast. > Does anyone know where I would locate these black lines? or the height of > the topping lift from some other reference point? My second question is > where to mount the pole downhaul (foreguy) - a? Thanks for this. > > By the way, love the list, such a great source of information. And here’s > to all the other C&C owners out there who’s arms are a sore as mine this > time of year as we get these boats ready for launch. > > > Kevin Deluzio > S/V Solevento > C&C30-1 #641 > Kingston, ON
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