An over-tensioned rig and/or weak laminate is also one of the explanations that Don Casey gives for dimples near the chain plates in his book on inspecting old boats. He also points out that "hard spots" may result from the hull flexing over an internal structure like a bulkhead. This may be cosmetic, but apparently the concern would be whether the glass is fractured and the hull weakened. He also recommends standing astern to see if the hull (and rudder/keel) are fair and true as they can distort over time for a variety of reasons including how they are blocked in the yard. These are not issue unique to C&C's, but potentially could afflict most any boat. GrahamSpellboundCleveland, O.
On Monday, November 28, 2016 9:02 AM, "Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: #yiv8637796419 #yiv8637796419 -- _filtered #yiv8637796419 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv8637796419 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv8637796419 {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv8637796419 #yiv8637796419 p.yiv8637796419MsoNormal, #yiv8637796419 li.yiv8637796419MsoNormal, #yiv8637796419 div.yiv8637796419MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv8637796419 a:link, #yiv8637796419 span.yiv8637796419MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv8637796419 a:visited, #yiv8637796419 span.yiv8637796419MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv8637796419 p.yiv8637796419MsoAcetate, #yiv8637796419 li.yiv8637796419MsoAcetate, #yiv8637796419 div.yiv8637796419MsoAcetate {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:8.0pt;}#yiv8637796419 span.yiv8637796419EmailStyle17 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv8637796419 span.yiv8637796419BalloonTextChar {}#yiv8637796419 .yiv8637796419MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv8637796419 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv8637796419 div.yiv8637796419WordSection1 {}#yiv8637796419 Randy At our previous club (Barrachois Harbour Yacht Club) one of our members and the founder of the marina was a former boat builder and was at the time buying and bringing boats to the marina for resale (smart way to fill a new marina). As a boat builder Dana would refurbish most of the boats prior to reselling them. Usually this included rebidding of chainplates, often recoring the deck in that area and sometimes even repainting the topsides (usually Awlgrip if I remember correctly). The favourite boat for Dana to bring in was the C&C 30-1 although there were also Aloha 27s, C&C 27-3 and even a couple Niagara 26 and a C&C25 or 2. Dana noticed the dimpling on just about every C&C30. His opinion was that it occurs from tensioning the rig tightly (shrouds). When refinishing topsides he normally had to fill these dimples to make the finished painted product look as it should to his satisfaction. A funny side note to this story. The one C&C 30 that they decided to keep as their own was briefly considered to be renamed “Spray Nine”. Dana had painted the boat once (three coats) and was not completely satisfied. He repainted the boat again and then a third or fourth time. Eventually using 9 coats in total before he was finally satisfied. This 1979 C&C 30 was immaculate. It is now known as Fly by Wire and still looks fantastic. (with no dimples) Mike Persistence Halifax From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of RANDY via CnC-List Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 12:01 AM To: Dave Cc: RANDY; cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Buckled Topsides at the Chainplates (was Re: Brokers and surveyors) Thanks Dave. My boat has a non-hydraulic backstay adjuster, and has a "dimple" in the topsides in the area of the port chainplate. I did have it professionally surveyed, and the surveyor didn't mention it or didn't notice it. I also inspected the boat carefully myself after buying it, following the procedures in Don Casey's "Inspecting the Aging Sailboat" (including standing astern and ahead looking at the verticality of the keel and rudder through a grid drawn on a clear sheet of plastic). Anyway the "dimple" is an oval-shaped flat spot in the curvature of the hull, about 9" high by 6" wide, on the port side only, in the vicinity of the chainplate, centered some 12" above the waterline. You can see it pretty well in this picture: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTQzlqNkNhR1djSmc. It's the dark disruption in the reflections off the topsides. I'd welcome any opinions on what this may be. I have no indication that part of the hull, or the chainplate knee, is anything but completely solid and immobile. Nor do I have any indication this blemish has any effect on the sailing characteristics of the boat. Thanks in advance. Best Regards, Randy Stafford S/V Grenadine C&C 30-1 #7 Ken Caryl, CO _______________________________________________ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
_______________________________________________ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!