You could try something like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEWMAR-PC-25-Noise-Filter-Power-Conditioner-25-amps-/231859240381?hash=item35fbe33dbd:g:Zn0AAOSwPc9W0ftz&vxp=mtr

Oscilloscope (scope) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscilloscope FYI
If you know any ham radio operators, they probably know where to find one to 
borrow.

Your plotter also could just be nuts ;)
Joe
Coquina


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Knecht 
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Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 09:56
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Cc: David Knecht
Subject: Re: Stus-List Chart plotter problem

Hi Joe and thanks for your input.  Some answers below.

Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT

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On Oct 3, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Some things to try:
1.       Run the plotter off its own battery. Little 6 ah AGM batteries are 
cheap enough if you don’t have a spare battery sitting around.
Given the intermittent nature of the problem, this would be challenging to do 
long enough to be definitive.  I am also not sure it will identify the source 
of the problem since it appears to be the power (see below).

2.       Put a scope on the DC bus to see what, if any, AC/noise is on the 
line. Include an engine start with this.
I don’t have a scope and have not used one.  What kind of device would you do 
this with?

3.       Disconnect the NMEA interconnection and see what happens.
As I said, when this happened last week, the NMEA input was disconnected from 
the chart plotter, so this seems to be coming from the power connection.  What 
is frustrating is that yesterday, I started the engine twice, once before and 
once after the race, and the chart plotter behaved perfectly and never beeped 
once.  Nothing was obviously different??????



4.       Check the NMEA connection for configuration. Does the plotter send and 
receive data or just send? No need to have the NMEA input line connected if 
there is no data headed that way.
5.       Put a laptop on the NMEA connection or run the diagnostic window on 
the plotter, if it has one, and read the raw NMEA stream to see if it is 
getting some odd data or any data at all if it should not be.
6.       Put ferrites on all incoming wiring.
7.       Check for ground loops and NMEA isolation*
*
This one is a bit tricky. First off, make sure the power supply and ground 
connections are at exactly the same place as your other electronics. Ground 
loops are bit complicated to explain and hard to find, but the short version is 
this step will eliminate some of them. Second is check with the manufacturer to 
see if your plotter NMEA connections are true marine standard opto-isolated. It 
is very possible to use direct wiring to NMEA data and not isolate it, my 
laptop/plotter does just that, but optical isolation prevents various stray 
voltage and ground issues from messing up the data.  Equipment is fairly 
resilient now, but back in the day an engine start could generate noise that 
would totally screw up electronics. Even now I will start an airplane with all 
radios and nav equipment off and then turn it on. I once was delivering an 
airplane that had a screwy alternator I had to switch off to use the radios and 
nav gear and then switch back on when the battery got low.
BTW – my boat is wired so the engine start battery is usually separate at 
engine start and has no effect at all on the electronics. They don’t combine 
until charging voltage is present for a few minutes. Is yours like that?
Joe
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I


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