JF - check your PHRF certificate.  It specifies your spinnaker pole length.  A 
whisker pole is in fact treated the same as a spinnaker pole and unless your 
Sis state differently cannot exceed spin pole length without penalty.  If a 
pole longer than that declared is used or one that is unmeasurable (boat hook 
not attached) then you have violated your PHRF declaration and are subject to 
protest and DSQ

Mike
Halifax

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The boat hook:  We only do it in really light winds 0-4 knots, were talking 
glassy water on the lake.  It's a cinch do undo and it's a cinch to hold.

We do sail under US Sailing rules and there are no stipulation whatsoever about 
the length of the pole, it's attachment to the mast, or position of the crew as 
long as we are inside the lifelines. I'm not trying to argue against local 
rules as I have seen rules for other areas on the web where there were mentions 
of attachment to the mast etc. On the lake, we don't use local interpretation 
of the rules, we go strictly by the US Sailing / ISAF document.

Here's the actual rule from the ISAF 2013- 2016 document:

Rule 50.3 Use of Outriggers

(a) No sail shall be sheeted over or through an outrigger, except as permitted 
in rule 50.3(b) or 50.3(c). An outrigger is any fitting or other device so 
placed that it could exert outward pressure on a sheet or sail at a point from 
which, with the boat upright, a vertical line would fall outside the hull or 
deck. For the purpose of this rule, bulwarks, rails and rubbing strakes are not 
part of the hull or deck and the following are not outriggers: a bowsprit used 
to secure the tack of a sail, a bumkin used to sheet the boom of a sail, or a 
boom of a boomed headsail that requires no adjustment when tacking.

(b) Any sail may be sheeted to or led above a boom that is regularly used for a 
sail and is permanently attached to the mast from which the head of the sail is 
set.

(c) A headsail may be sheeted or attached at its clew to a spinnaker pole or 
whisker pole, provided that a spinnaker is not set.

Important part being part "C" Spinnaker pole or whisker pole but no mention of 
it's description, attachment,  or position of the crew.  I guess someone could 
argue that a boat hook is not a proper whisker pole.  Quite a few of us do it 
on the lake and no one cares. As long a I don't get a protest:  In 0-3 knots I 
don't see any great danger, you can hold it one handed.. It's simply a matter 
of convenience and ease of use. Also it's much quicker / easier to change the 
depth / angle of  a portable pole instead of a heavy thing attached to the 
mast, especially in extremely light winds where any sudden move of the crew can 
upset the sailplan and kill your ever so slight apparent wind.


Just to be clear, here's the actual rule on the crew:

CREW POSITION; LIFELINES 49.1 Competitors shall use no device designed to 
position their bodies outboard, other than hiking straps and stiffeners worn 
under the thighs.

49.2 When lifelines are required by the class rules or the sailing instructions 
they shall be taut, and competitors shall not position any Part 4 OTHER 
REQUIREMENTS WHEN RACING 28 part of their torsos outside them, except briefly 
to perform a necessary task. On boats equipped with upper and lower lifelines, 
a competitor sitting on the deck facing outboard with his waist inside the 
lower lifeline may have the upper part of his body outside the upper lifeline. 
If the class rules do not specify the material or minimum diameter of 
lifelines, they shall comply with the corresponding specifications in the ISAF 
Offshore Special Regulations.

No mention of holding sails or anything else..


As I learned racing my Mustang.. Reading the rules very carefully and knowing 
how to interpret them in a fair is just another item on the long list of what 
makes the difference between the guy out front and the rest..

Here are the rules: 
http://www.sailing.org/tools/documents/ISAFRRS20132016Final-[13376].pdf


-Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA




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