If all else fails, connect everything back up, loosen bolts holding
transmission to engine, run engine, put in gear, pray.
Perhaps there will be enough play between the engine and transmission to break
the seal.
Many years ago I used a similar process to remove stuck cylinder heads.
I wasn’t trying to remove my transmission when I had a serious vibration.
Found all of the bolts holding the transmission to the engine were very loose.
Good luck.
Frank
S/V Cool Change
C&C 38LF, SN: 001
Rose City YC
Portland, Oregon
From: Brian Davis via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 06:43
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Brian Davis
Subject: Re: Stus-List Paragon Transmission
Just curious if anyone else has had trouble removing the transmission from
their boat? My LF 38 has a Paragon Vdrive connected to a Yanmar 30hp. The
Vdrive came off without issue and I got the bolts completely out of the trans
that go into the bell housing. I've been told that it should "come right out",
but I can even get it to budge. It was newly installed 3 years ago by the PO
and has been way inland in dry dock until a month ago. So I wouldn't think its
corroded that badly if at all...at least it doesn't look that way. Maybe they
used a sealant...which I was told it doesn't need since it's a dry fit. I've
tried a mallet and piece of wood to smack the front and rear of
it....nothing...smacked it pretty darn good too. I like to think I'm a pretty
strong and young guy...and I ate my biscuits n gravy 2 mornings in a row
now....still nothing. Any tips or tricks that anybody has used with success?
Regards,
Brian
On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Brian Davis <brianwdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you, Doug. I appreciate the support and advice. I successfully
removed the vdrive late last night without to much trouble...while listening to
the relaxing sounds of the storm that passed through. Lol. I also got the
bolts off the trans that connect to the yanmar, but she's not budging. It was
late so I decided to pause for the day and resume after work today again. It
is heavy indeed since I still have the old one the PO saved. I'm canceling my
gym membership after carrying it to and from my storage unit to the boat. I'm
thinking the gasket is probably sticking and she needs some encouragement of
sorts, but I don't want to start hammering on it and have it come out and land
on the shaft. So, I'm not sure of the best approach to next steps... Also,
I'm not totally sure what you mean by "In the curved adapter is a universal
joint that is splined to the transmission output shaft." The Vdrive pulled
right off after disconnecting the cooling hoses...
Thanks again for the input. She's a beautiful boat and I'm enjoying
finishing up the restoration that the PO started.
Regards,
Brian
On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 7:50 PM, svpegasu...@gmail.com <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:
Hi Brian, and welcome. I have the Paragon trans and V-drive in Pegasus. I
was told by a marine mechanic (that repaired paragons) that you have to hold it
in reverse. There is no detent. As for removing it yourself. Pull the V-drive
first, remove it from the transmission. In the curved adapter is a universal
joint that is splined to the transmission output shaft. Next remove the
transmission. Carefull it is heavy. Good luck. You have a great boat.
Doug Mountjoy
svPegasus
LF38 1979
just west of Ballard, WA.
------ Original message------
From: Brian Davis via CnC-List
Date: Tue, May 3, 2016 11:53
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;
Cc: Brian Davis;
Subject:Re: Stus-List Paragon Transmission
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uzo7ugqxmzlhv9w/paragon.pdf?dl=0
Here is a picture of the break..
On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Brian Davis via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Dear Members,
I'm new to the list, but have found a lot of beneficial reading belonging
to the list. I purchased a 1980 Landfall 38 SL a couple of months ago. "Nina"
was in dry dock at Indiantown Marina in Florida for nearly 3 years before I
bought her. We launched her 4 weeks ago and motored her down to North Palm
Beach pending the availability of our slip further south. The halyards are in
desperate need of replacing, which is why we motored the whole way...plus the
diesel needed a good running after so long anyhow. The fuel was 3 years old,
but had stabilizer. Amazingly, she fired right up and purred like a tiger the
whole way... She's a beautiful vessel for sure!!
The PO did a lot of restorations to her one of which was a complete
rebuild of the Yanmar 30hp and Vdrive. The Paragon transmission he replaced as
well and he happed to find one in Michigan that was still brand new from
1980...believe it our not. I'm having an issue with the Reverse gear engaging
and wondering if it's me or the trans. When I carefully shift her into Reverse
she does seem to fully engage or stay in gear. I'm getting mixed feedback and
hoping that somebody with the same set up can clarify. The shifter is on the
wheel column while the throttle is on the side of the cockpit. Should I have
to continuously hold the shifter down in reverse to keep it engaged?? Forward
works great and there is a positive lock or click once I engage the shifter up
into gear. However, once back off on the throttle, move it to neutral, then
into reverse, and then giver her juice it doesn't seem to either slow the boat
or move into reverse.
To make matters worse, I was reading the Paragon instruction sheet that I
received from the PO and I attempted to "adjust" it as directed. I made about
a 1/2 to 3/4 turn (not torqueing by any means) and it cracked. After several
inappropriate words to myself, I was able to contact a local trans shop and
they said it must be removed and brought in and completely taken apart in order
to replace the part. I happen to have the original trans so I hope I can pull
that piece and reuse it...otherwise they said it could take months to get a
replacement piece.
After a conversation with the PO he sent me the number of the place in
Michigan where he bought it. I spoke with them and sent the pics....waiting to
hear back from them on advice. In the meantime I wanted to reach out to my
fellow C&C owners for advice. I'm very handy and am considering pulling the
trans and replacing it myself. Suggestions are welcome! But, I'm still
curious as to why the reverse wasn't engaging.... thoughts?
Kind regards,
Brian Davis
..dead in the water, but at least at a marina in sunny FL..
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