Randy

While most areas do not give a credit for an undersized foot on your mainsail 
ALL AREAS will penalize you if the foot exceeds the E measurement.

Regards

Mike
Persistence
Racing this evening in Halifax, NS

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Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 1:50 AM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List 30-1 Mainsail Foot Length

So it turns out on this particular question everybody was partially right. :)

Like Rick Bushie's Anchovy (30-1 hull #1), my Grenadine (30-1 hull #7) has a 
13' boom with boom-end sheeting to a traveler at the aft end of the cockpit, 
and tiller steering.  The boom ends a few inches forward of the backstay, and 
its length is probably driven by that sheeting arrangement.  Perhaps later in 
the production run C&C moved the traveler forward on the 30-1 (e.g. for wheel 
steering) and shortened the boom accordingly.  Having sailed several 
tiller-steered boats up to and including a J/30, I personally like the cockpit 
layout of my boat - lots of room.

But unfortunately my current mainsail's foot is only 10'6" - a full 12" shorter 
than the 30-1's designed E dimension.  I have no idea whether that was 
intentional by a previous owner, or perhaps a screw-up by the obscure maker of 
my mainsail (whose sail bag is stamped with the year I graduated high school :)

Also my boom is raised exactly 12" from its as-built height, as C&C later did 
from the factory on the 30-1.  So I'm giving up mainsail area in both the E and 
P dimensions compared to the early 30-1's design.  When I buy a new mainsail 
I'll make sure its foot is 11'6" per the 30-1 design, or perhaps even longer 
(since I've got enough boom for that).  But I can see the advantages of leaving 
the boom a foot higher than its original location.  It makes moving around in 
the cockpit easier and safer.  It's probably not worth the extra ~12 square 
feet of mainsail area to lower it back.

Cheers,
Randy

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Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 4:01:06 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List 30-1 Mainsail Foot Length

Thanks John, Dennis, Michael, and Gary.

As soon as the #@()*%^ snow stops falling around here and I can uncover and 
raise the sail again, I'll take actual measurements and compare to the 
specified E dimension and report back.

My boat does have tiller steering, and boom-end sheeting to a traveler at the 
aft end of the cockpit.  I like the room that arrangement provides in the 
cockpit, but I'm still getting used to switching hands between tiller and 
traveler during tacks, compared to driving boats with the traveler farther 
forward in the cockpit.

Cheers,
Randy

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Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 3:30:30 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List 30-1 Mainsail Foot Length

Take a look at the C&C Brochures on the web site. You will see two versions of 
the early 30’s, one with end boom sheeting and the last one (d) with sheeting 
forward of the wheel. Maybe the difference is whether you had a tiller or wheel.

Gary

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Subject: Stus-List 30-1 Mainsail Foot Length

Listers-

I posted a few pictures from my first race in my new-to-me 30-1 (hull #7) last 
Wednesday night at https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTeUlmcm1IX1c5ZHc

You can see the foot of my mainsail is considerably shorter than my boom.  I'm 
wondering if that's "normal" for 30-1s (or other C&Cs for that matter).  It 
doesn't really look normal judging by brochure photos and drawings.

A previous owner had also raised the boom at least a foot from its original 
height, as the C&C itself did on later C&C 30s.

When I get a new mainsail I'd like to increase its area by both returning the 
boom to its original height, and increasing the length of mainsail's foot.  I'm 
thinking more area equals more power equals more speed.  And I can live with a 
lower boom.

Any words of wisdom to share?

Thanks,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C&C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO

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