Hi David, FWIW, I've lived abroad and I suppose, was more looking for the "word on the street" with respect to the way things actually work with respect to the origin of one's MMSI. Cheers, --Bob M
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 10:54 PM, David Lenehan via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Bob, > > No one can give you a definitie answer about how you will be treated upon > arrival in any port anywhere in the world. It can and does vary. > > Having dealt with bureaucracies for what seems like forever, the official > answer you will get is simple: "You must comply with the law when you > visit the Bahamas." It's the same in any country. How that is enforced is > often up to the individual official - some are tougher than others; some > have their favourite areas to look for, and; some are outright pigs. > > When I was at school, I was one of the physically big and capable kids. > It was a policy to avoid the bullies who I stood up to and I was left alone > by them. Occasionally I got asked to help out some kid who was being > picked on. My advice was usually the same: "Why go where you know they'll > be and get targetted? Don't give them a reason or opportunity to bully > you." > > The same advice applies here regardless of how the last skipper you spoke > to was treated in Nassau, Buenos Aires or Port Vila. Be suitably informed > and obey their laws. It's not that difficult even if it costs a little > more in the short term. It may save you big time on arrival. > > Hope that helps > David > > On 16 January 2016 at 14:28, bobmor99 . via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Thank you Rick for your detailed reply. >> I think my question still boils down to whether a DSC All Ships Distress >> Alert sent e.g. from Bahamian waters from a radio with a BoatUS-issued MMSI >> would be treated equally as a boat with a (U.S.) federally issued MMSI. >> --Bob M >> Ox 33-1 >> Jax, FL >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 9:49 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >>> The basic difference between an MMSI issued by Boat/US and one from the >>> FCC is the availability of the data to search and rescue agencies. Boat/US >>> share the database of boat description, emergency contacts, persons on >>> board, cell phones aboard, etc. with the USCG. So if you make a distress >>> call in US waters (or within range of the USCG) they look up your boat >>> information, call your home and emergency contacts to make sure it is not a >>> false alarm, call you back on the radio to identify your emergency and >>> start the SAR process. >>> >>> >>> >>> If you are out of the area covered by USCG, the SAR agency that gets >>> your DSC mayday call gets your MMSI and position, but does not have access >>> to the other information you submit with your application. They know you’re >>> out there, but they don’t know who they are looking for or what resources >>> they might need. That could potentially impede the search. Also, the >>> majority of mayday calls received by the USCG are false alarms or hoaxes. >>> Not to disparage any 3rd world SAR agencies or imply that the response >>> to a call will be less than efficient, but can’t you imagine the following: >>> “Hey, jefe, there is some bozo sending a distress call, but I can’t tell >>> who or what they are.” “Damn. There’s a storm out there and it’s probably a >>> false alarm anyway. Send out Pablo in the morning to see if he can see >>> what’s up.” >>> >>> >>> >>> Information associated with an MMSI issued by the FCC is shared not just >>> with the USCG, but also internationally. >>> >>> >>> >>> If you are going to be out of US territorial waters you are legally >>> supposed to have a Ship’s Station License issued by the FCC. Getting the >>> license usually includes the MMSI number. You also need a Ship Station >>> License if you are operating other equipment like AIS, radar, SSB or other >>> HF radio, or an EPIRB. Boat/US says Canada does not enforce the licensing >>> requirement. Don’t know whether it comes up when entering other countries, >>> but not having all the appropriate paperwork and licenses when clearing >>> into a country might be a cause for hassles, fees, and delays. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of >>> *bobmor99 >>> . via CnC-List >>> *Sent:* Friday, January 15, 2016 6:44 PM >>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> *Cc:* bobmor99 . <bobmo...@gmail.com> >>> *Subject:* Stus-List MMSI Number Assigning Authority (USA and Canada) >>> >>> >>> >>> Just read the nice BoatUS MMSI FAQ. >>> https://www.boatus.com/mmsi/faq.asp >>> >>> As I understand it, both Canadian and US boaters have a choice for >>> quick-easy-free MMSI number assignment (by Industry Canada or BoatUS) or a >>> slower, not-free gov't issued MMSI number (which ends in a zero). >>> >>> Non-gov't issued MMSI numbers are only for use in Canadian or US waters. >>> >>> What would be the ramifications if I issued a DSC distress call from a >>> radio with a BoatUS-supplied MMSI in, e.g., Bahamian waters? >>> >>> Would it go unnoticed? Would I be fined? Sorry to sound like a scofflaw, >>> just trying to understand how the system works. >>> >>> Bob M >>> >>> Ox 33-1 >>> >>> Jax, FL >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>> bottom of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >> bottom of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > >
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