Chuck,
I called Edson, and while the rep (Gene?) I talked to was quite
pleasant to talk to, in the end he was no help at all.
They have a steel plate, but they refuse to sell it or any other naked plate to
me. Change in policy he said.
Fear of insurance companies, or Edson's reputation if a customer install should
fail, was the reasoning he thought, but he said it was not his decision.
Edson will only sell complete assemblies, and only at their suggested retail.
Frustrating!!!
Also they have new 2016 prices.
He strongly recommends and wants to sell me a new chain and cable for US$
271.00, but he did confirm that they do use Port Supply as a distributor, which
is good for me because I know someone who has a wholesale number.
Anyway, thanks for trying to help.
Best,
Steve Thomas
C&C36 MKI
C&C27 MKIII
----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chuck Gilchrest
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 10:35
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C Nameplate - Now printing dwg file problem
Steve,
Just 2 cents from a former Edsonite (10+ years). When replacing the Idler
plate and uprights on a “vintage” crossed wire idler, the original plates were
made of painted mild steel with bronze sheave uprights, using a pressed- in
oversize pop rivets holding the uprights to the plate, thus allowing sheave
assemblies to pivot and lock in place using a locking bolt/ nut and a groove
cut in the plate to let the upright swing through an arc for proper alignment.
The placement of the pivot holes (which also are the holes the cable pass
through) is critical relative to the sprocket inside the pedestal to allow the
chain to cross inside the pedestal without rubbing on itself.
The new cross wire idler assemblies are now made of cast aluminum with
stainless uprights but have the same physical dimensions with one exception-
thickness of the plate, which can affect the cable alignment especially if your
radial wheel is close by to the idler. Edson does sell this Idler plate
without sheaves, but the uprights are pre-installed at the factory. I’d call
the factory 508-995-9711 and ask for pricing for a 774AL-4AL less sheaves.
They may even have a few mild steel plates banging around the building as well.
Unless you’re buying a new idler assembly, you’ll need to have a means of
pressing the idler uprights onto a new plate in such a fashion that the upright
will pivot to assure proper alignment with the radial wheel on the rudder shaft.
In the event you make your own plate, make sure to change out the bronze
sheave pins with stainless pins and check the sheave bushing/pin runout to make
sure the sheaves are reusable. I would advise not making an aluminum plate if
you plan to re-use the bronze (pot metal) uprights for obvious reasons.
This is also a really good time to replace your chain and wire cables since
everything will be apart.
While this doesn’t necessarily help with the CAD issue, it may shed some
light on the reason for the cost of the part, considering the engineering to
make it work right out of the box.
Best,
Chuck Gilchrest
Half Magic
1975 25 Mk 1
Orion
1983 35 Landfall
Padanaram MA
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh
Muckley via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 10:01 AM
To: C&C List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C Nameplate - Now printing dwg file problem
Building off of Bill's comments, most "good" machine shops will take your
file without any hesitation. If you find one that will then try my guy at:
Harry "HL" Langley
marsurl...@comcast.net
(410) 326-2001
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Jan 4, 2016 4:41 AM, "S Thomas via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
To any lister with AutoCAD experience:
The plate holding the cable idler sheaves that bolts to the bottom of the
Edson steering pedestal on my recent C&C36 purchase has almost completely
disintegrated. I downloaded a .dwg drawing of the assembly from the Edson web
page and installed a version of Autodesk Trueview (2014) that is compatible
with XP, but I cannot get it to print (plot) anything other than an empty
rectangle. I have been poking at it quite a bit and got exactly nowhere. I have
no experience with AutoCAD, and find the user interface tools less than
intuitive. About like my first experience with vi in Unix, only less
productive. Any fiddling with layer colours, and the layout tab disappears
completely. Is there a simple way to print from either the model or the layout
tabs in the file as downloaded? All I have been able to get in the print
preview is a line rectangle the outlines the page, and sure enough, that is all
that prints. The help files have not been helpful in printing, but at least I
can pan, zoom, and take measurements between points.
Edson lists a price for the entire assembly, but the sheaves appear to be
ok, and the Edson price (US$ 360) is pretty high for what I think that I
actually need. I would rather just make a mounting plate if I can't purchase
one for a reasonable price.
Steve Thomas
C&C36 MKI
Merritt Island, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Russell via CnC-List
To: C&C List
Cc: Gary Russell
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2016 22:56
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C Nameplate
Dennis,
Interesting idea. The file is the problem, however.
Gary
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