The “M” actually does mean something – that the manufacturer is using the MODEL Year format that was optional prior to August 1, 1984.
Why August 1st? Because any boat started after August 1st is by definition a boat of the following MODEL Year. If you look at the date codes listed under the illustration of the two number schemes used prior to August 84 in the material at http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/hin.htm , you will see that the month code starts with A = August. This is different than is HINs after August 1984 (which show both the month of certification and the model year); in the newer scheme A=January. In your message below, the interpretation of the HIN ending in M80K is essentially correct. It signifies a 1980 model (M80) which was certified – start of the construction process, whatever event triggered it – s in month K. Since MODEL Year 1980 boats were made from August (A) 1979 to July (L) 1980, the start of production was June, 1980. For the boat with HIN ending in M84D, the boat is a 1984 model (M84) and start of production was in month D. Month D = November, so for a 1984 model boat the certification was in November of 1983. After August 1, 1984 (the nominal start of production for the 1985 models), the first 32 built would have had the date code of H4 (for certification in August 1984, remember that A = January in the newer scheme) followed by 85 (the model year of the boat). So the date code would be H485. All in all, the newer format is a lot less confusing and clearly defines both the date of certification and the model year. And it also, as I said in an earlier post, accommodates builders with a long production cycle like Pacific Seacraft – where a boat started in 2013 will not get completed and launched until late in 2015. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ken Heaton via CnC-List Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 2:54 PM To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List 1980 C&C 32 Innisfree - Wilmington, DE To add to that, before August 1, 1984 there were two different formats permitted for a Hull Identification Number (HIN). These two formats differ only in the last four (4) digits. Either you have 4 numerical values, the first two being month and the second two year OR the last 4 digits are letter, number, number, letter. If your HIN is the second allowed format the first digit of the last group of 4 digits is always an M (which doesn't mean anything), followed by 2 digits which are numbers showing the year the construction papers were started, followed by a letter which is the month of manufacture. ...so for HIN ZCC32053M80K ZCC = C&C Yachts 32 = 32' LOA 053 is the Serial number of your hull, so hull no. 53 of the C&C 32 M = nothing, just a place holder 80 = 1980, the year the construction of your hull was started K = June, the month the construction of your hull was started ...and for HIN ZCC32277M84D ZCC = C&C Yachts 32 = 32' LOA 277 is the Serial number of your hull, so hull no. 277 of the C&C 32 M = nothing, just a place holder 84 = 1984, the year the construction of your hull was started D = April, the month the construction of your hull was started (or at least the date the build paperwork was generated) If they had started construction of your boat after August 1984 your HIN would have followed the new (different) format. http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/hin.htm Does that help? Ken H. SV Salazar - C&C 37 XL Cape Breton Island, NS On 1 November 2015 at 21:20, robert via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: Chuck: Character 9 refers to the month......and....character 10 the year the boat was certified. In both of our HIN's, character 9 is 'M'........but I can't find any 'M' in the "letters that correspond to the following months" So I ask again, what do the 'K' and 'D' stand for.....it says below "The eleventh and twelfth characters refer to the model year". Any other C&C 32 owners with the 12th character a 'K'? Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2015-11-01 8:13 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List wrote: I think the K means the hull was molded in November. Found the HIN explained on the web: <http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/hin.htm> The first 3 characters are what are referred to as the MIC or Manufacturers Index Code. There are several sites on the internet that can help you decode the MIC of your HIN. One such site is through the US Coast Guards website <http://www.uscgboating.org/recalls/mic1.aspx> . Another option that might be a bit easier to use is Boat History Report <http://www.boathistoryreport.com/main.cfm?f=partners&partnerid=59547> which hosts a free HIN validator to verify you have the correct HIN to begin with. The following 5 digits vary according the manufacturer but are meant to be used as a serial number for that boat. It may contain specifics such as the length or material of the boat or it may just be a sequential number. Manufacturers are able to use any series of numbers and letters except O, I and Q because they are easily mistaken. The last 4 characters of the HIN represent the certification year and model of the watercraft. Character 9 refers to the month and character 10- the year, the boat was certified. Certification means when the boat was stated to be in compliance with all laws and regulations regarding safe boat building. The letters correspond to the following months: A- January, B- February, C- March, D- April, E- May, F- June, G- July, H- August, I- September, J- October, K- November, L- December. The year is dictated using the last number of the year- for example, March of 1982 would be written as C2. The eleventh and twelfth characters refer to the model year. In the example above, the boat was certified in March of 1993 with a model year of 1993. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md _____ From: "robert via CnC-List" <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: "robert" <mailto:robertabb...@eastlink.ca> <robertabb...@eastlink.ca> Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 4:59:59 PM Subject: Stus-List 1980 C&C 32 Innisfree - Wilmington, DE Bill: No, I don't know anything about this boat. But I am curious about the "K" in the HIN. I thought there were four (4) C&C 32 models, A,B,C, and D.......mine is HIN ZCC32277M84D.......have never heard of a "K". Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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