OK, I had to look up the word ”luddite”. I don’t think anyone is arguing the 
use of machinery here.  It’s a cost/complexity/benefit issue.  Never 
underestimate the impact of complexity.  I’d go on my rant about steering 
systems here but that’s a whole other subject.

John


> 
>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 7:14 AM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Some people retire from sailing, or buy a trawler prematurely, because they 
>> eschewed equipping their boat with whatever was needed to make it less 
>> physically demanding to sail. Luddites be damned! There are plenty of 
>> sailors who will tell you that a GPS and RADAR are wastes of money, too. 
>> 
>> Bill Bina
>> 
>> On 9/27/2015 2:56 PM, John Pennie via CnC-List wrote:
>>> Ed:
>>> 
>>> I sailed/lived aboard a 51 for many years.  Everyone thought we were crazy 
>>> when we removed the bow thruster (it didn’t work anyway).  I can say I 
>>> never missed it.  They do add some drag - probably not as much as you would 
>>> expect.  I would think a pod hanging down would be worse.  Nevertheless,I 
>>> just don’t see the need and I sail in the same area as you.  It sounds 
>>> strange, but my experience has been the tighter the slip the easier it is 
>>> to get into. There just isn’t as much room to screw up!  Yes, there has 
>>> been the rare occasion where it would have been helpful coming in.  Leaving 
>>> a dock it serves no purpose as god invented spring lines.  To me, the 
>>> complexity of the systems, to say nothing of the cost, just isn’t 
>>> justified.  I
>>> 
>>> My opinion would be just say no…
>>> 
>>> Of course, it’s your money and you should spend it however you damn well 
>>> want to.
>>> 
>>> John
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