Bruce A couple comments about the 33-2 and issues you have raised.
First. Just about everybody I have known who has or has had a C&C33-2 refers to it fondly and as just about the best boat they ever have owned. Have a friend who currently has a Sabre 34 and previously had a C&C34R since his 33-2. He has often said that they all should have kept their 33-2s since they were great boats and relatively easy and cheap to maintain and race. Same thing for the owner of the C&C 115 that we race on regularly. While neither of these two ever said they wish they still had their 33 in place of the Sabre of 115 they both speak fondly of the boat and talk of all the winning they did while racing them. Compared to the 115 and 34R the 33-2 was very easy to win with and very inexpensive to run. As for the 36 I grew up with a C&C 36 that our family purchased new in 1981. I always found it a powerful and nice boat to sail on. However at that time I had not comparative experience racing on many other boats in the C&C line so could not comment on the 36 vs the 33-2 from personal experience. However from many years being on the sailing scene since then I do know that I have heard a lot of very favourable comments about the 33-2 and not nearly so many about the 36. May have something to do with numbers built which I will leave up to you to decide. (my apologies to 36 owners for this) “cabin sole are screwed down” I believe this shows only that at some point it was removed and either replaced or refinished. This is pretty common practice. Likely only the bilge access panels are not screwed down. One note about screwed down varnished wood. The screw heads are likely gummed up with old varnish and particularly difficult to remove “isn't great access to the engine” Our Frers 33 has a very similar internal layout to the 33-2. As mentioned by others access to dipstick etc is usually from galley side inside a cupboard etc. The other side has a quarterberth. We installed a large round inspection panel to give some access from this side. Get used to climbing in the cockpit lazarette though as it seems that is the only way to get at steering and several other items of maintenance in that area. If boat has the standard 2GM20 engine you should be able to get at everything more or less reasonably. A 33-2 in this area that had issues around stern tube had to remove the engine to fully access that area. That was a pretty unusual thing though and due to a misaligned shaft Mast Step/sump As mentioned by others this is the one common area of concern on a 33-2. It does not appear to be a major repair item but one that should be addressed and just one more good reason to take the mast down in the fall on your first year of ownership Both the 33-2 and 36 are great boats. The 33-2 in particular gets a lot of great reviews from owners past and present. 36 had headroom for my father who was 6’3” which is why they bought that rather than a 34 or 32. Mike Persistence 1987 Frers 33 Halifax From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bruce via CnC-List Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:21 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: b...@bgary.com Subject: Stus-List Looking at a C&C 33-2.... known issues? I'm looking at a mid-80s C&C 33-2. Overall, boat looks great, but would love to know if there are known issues with these boats that I should pay attention to. I know about the potential for wet core, and will be getting a full survey if I go forward, I'm more wondering about items peculiar to this model I'd be especially interested, for example, in knowing if there are patterns of things that need attention: things like sealing or rebedding hatches, replacing leaky windows, wobbly stanchion bases, hard-to-get-to thru-hulls, etc. Things that caught my attention in the first inspection: -- I noticed that there isn't great access to the engine - removing the stairs/forward cover provides access to the front, but it looks like it would be tough to get to the sides if needed. It looks like the only way to get to the shaft coupling and packing gland, for example, is through the cockpit lazarette. Has this proven to be an issue, or is it okay? -- it looks like there has been repair to [at least] the gelcoat at the forward end of the fixed plexi windows, both port and starboard. I've read several threads about having to replace leaking windows, is this a common problem? And would it have required gelcoat repair, or is it possible there was some other kind of issue? -- there are some stress cracks in the gelcoat at either end of the teak trim at the top of the transom. Is this normal (eg, just an artifact of a "hard corner" in the mold), or does it indicate something potentially more serious? -- the top of the door to the forward v-berth looks like it has been shaved. In other boats, that can be a sign that the interior structure has "racked". but all the other doors and drawers seem to be fine. Might be nothing, or... not. Anyone ever heard of structural issues in these boats? Is there access to inspect the tabbing where the bulkheads are joined to the hull? -- the various sections of the cabin sole are screwed down. Is this normal, or an owner-add? I'm generally a big fan of being able to easily check the bilge (and inspect the keelbolts) without tools, unless there's a good reason to secure those sections. Thx, bruce
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