We have had Perception since 2000, and replaced just about everything in the 15 years – Love the boat. We looked at upsizing, but realized that not many boats sailed as well and were as easy to handle with just 2 of us (well 1 sailing 1 reading). Perception spent 20 years in salt/brackish water and the last 10 in fresh -
We have had the windows done twice – by ‘professionals’ the first did a hack job – yes he came recommended - , and it lasted maybe 4 years – too thin plexi, did not finish the edges, and messed up the gel coat around the windows. After 3 years they cracked – had an excellent fiberglass repair craftsman do the second (he remembered the first as he was called by the fellow who did the work and asked what to do!) Got the plexi made by South Shore from the original templates and had the fiberglass and gelcoat around the openings repaired – excellent gelcoat match 4 years later you would not know, and they still look new. We have replaced all the hatches with Lewmar Ocean series, as the sun had taken a toll on the Bomars that were on her. You may find some cracking where the liner and deck meet around the hatch openings if you remove them, which can cause leaking – West G2 epoxy fixes the cracks and has a bit of flex needed, butyl tape the leaks ☺ We have the K/CB version, so the mast step is not an issue – but on the keel version it is something to look at …. Engine access is a bit awkward, but not too bad, stairs come out, the top of the engine box lifts and in the cabinet under the sink there is a panel that removes for access to that side of the engine (where the oil dip stick is. If you need more access, the entire top of the engine box can be removed easily. We have repowered with a Beta when we had to replace a broken motor mount, and were going to get the Yanmar rebuilt – in Canada the parts to replace the mounts and rebuild the engine were well over ½ the price of the new engine – and we saved on labour! On thru hulls – the engine intake is a long way down, but I can open and close it with a boat hook, others are fairly easy to get at. Not sure on the full keel version, but we have 1 keel bolt under the mast. The rest are accessible. Our floor boards are screwed down on the sides, the ones directly over the keel, where the sump is, are not and remove easily. I take the others up annually to check on the rest of the bilge and clean it. Too much back stay and some of the doors bind, not an issue most of the time. Overall a GREAT boat – any questions let me know Paul Fountain Perception II – 1985 C&C 33-ll K/CB From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bruce via CnC-List Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 8:21 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: b...@bgary.com Subject: Stus-List Looking at a C&C 33-2.... known issues? I'm looking at a mid-80s C&C 33-2. Overall, boat looks great, but would love to know if there are known issues with these boats that I should pay attention to. I know about the potential for wet core, and will be getting a full survey if I go forward, I'm more wondering about items peculiar to this model I'd be especially interested, for example, in knowing if there are patterns of things that need attention: things like sealing or rebedding hatches, replacing leaky windows, wobbly stanchion bases, hard-to-get-to thru-hulls, etc. Things that caught my attention in the first inspection: -- I noticed that there isn't great access to the engine - removing the stairs/forward cover provides access to the front, but it looks like it would be tough to get to the sides if needed. It looks like the only way to get to the shaft coupling and packing gland, for example, is through the cockpit lazarette. Has this proven to be an issue, or is it okay? -- it looks like there has been repair to [at least] the gelcoat at the forward end of the fixed plexi windows, both port and starboard. I've read several threads about having to replace leaking windows, is this a common problem? And would it have required gelcoat repair, or is it possible there was some other kind of issue? -- there are some stress cracks in the gelcoat at either end of the teak trim at the top of the transom. Is this normal (eg, just an artifact of a "hard corner" in the mold), or does it indicate something potentially more serious? -- the top of the door to the forward v-berth looks like it has been shaved. In other boats, that can be a sign that the interior structure has "racked". but all the other doors and drawers seem to be fine. Might be nothing, or... not. Anyone ever heard of structural issues in these boats? Is there access to inspect the tabbing where the bulkheads are joined to the hull? -- the various sections of the cabin sole are screwed down. Is this normal, or an owner-add? I'm generally a big fan of being able to easily check the bilge (and inspect the keelbolts) without tools, unless there's a good reason to secure those sections. Thx, bruce
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