I can see trying to save $$ on a bottom job. However, topsides paint is a different story. I would want a really good paint job even if I had to pay more. The topsides is what people see. The numerous positive comments on Touche's topside paint very much ease the pain I felt in my wallet. :)
More than one person has told me Touche' has the best paint job in the mariina. Several have asked me where I had it done. ((Of course, not many of them care to take their boat 160 nms to have it painted.) Dennis C. On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I LOVE the sound of those prices! I have not tackled a finish job of this > magnitude before. Repairable is definitely desirable. For some reason I > thought awlgrip wasn't that easy to repair... > > The bottom looks to have many many years of buildup but, you're right I'm > not racing nor do I plan to. > > I just checked the yard's estimate was $3000 in the sring of 2013 and they > honored the price and did the work the following off season. They then, > they gave me a 15% discount for booking early and paying a deposit. so, I > think the whole job came in around $2600 for a strip barrier coat and > bottom paint. So, by those numbers the bottom job with them could be > around $3500 - $4000 all in. I've written them for their thoughts. > > My issue at this point is I have too much work to give me time to do all > that work myself and finding helpers is never easy. I guess I could pay > some guys to help but them there is no one with the experience on the > job... Maybe I should just keep to making money at what I'm good at, and > pay people that are good to do the cosmetics on the boat? > > Danny > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List end of my search - painting topsides > Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 12:52:14 -0500 > > So, a roll and tip job is cheap and would not be worthy of Awlgrip. > Awlcraft is the product I was suggesting for ease of repair. You could > probably DIY with a helper or two and get away for less than $1k. > > If the bottom doesn't show signs of blistering then i would simply sand > and feather the bottom. You're not racing. Wait for blistering to soda or > ice blast and new barrier coat. Again less than $1k. > > Josh > On Sep 6, 2015 1:09 PM, "Dennis C. via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > >> I had Touche' painted with Awlcraft rather than Awlgrip. Easier to blend >> and repair than Awlgrip. >> >> I sanded the topsides and had a pro shoot the paint. Used a Hutchins >> Hustler straight line sander. Took 3 coats of high build primer followed >> by the Awlcraft. Looks awesome! >> >> The sander removed all imperfections in the hull. After 40 years, post >> cure shrinkage caused the pattern of the roving to show. Now hull is >> perfectly smooth. >> >> Using a disc sander requires a very steady hand and a lot of experience. >> Inexperienced operators tend to rock and tilt a disc sander causing small >> gouges in the surface. These gouges may be visible with very smooth shiny >> paints. >> >> Dennis C. >> >> On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Josh! >>> >>> In considering topsides to be waterline to toe rail. I honestly would >>> prefer gel coat. I don't really understand the rush to paint. Gelcoat >>> seems to want to come back to life even after years of neglect. I thought >>> that, because she is painted already, I had no choice but to paint again. >>> >>> Bottom has many layers of bottom paint that are peeling off. I think >>> she need a clean start all the way back with barrier coat. >>> >>> I had this done on Lolita for around $2400 for the 2014 season, if I >>> recall properly. I guess that was a great price. I think I paid 800 for >>> sandblasting (yep they sandblasted) and then about 1600 for fixes, barrier >>> coat and bottom paint. I have to check my files to see how good my memory >>> is. I remember they gave me a 15% discount for scheduling and paying a 30% >>> deposit. >>> >>> The top sides on Lolita were painted by a PO and she was rolled and >>> tipped and I thought she looked absolutely fine. The hull was white. >>> >>> Maybe an inexpressive roll and tip job would be an answer to get sailing >>> and kick the can down the road a bit...?On Sep 6, 2015 12:11 PM, Josh >>> Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > Danny, >>> > >>> > When you say topside paint are you talking about the hull (freeboard, >>> area between the water and toe rail)? Or are you talking about the deck >>> (everything above the toe rail)? Either way you're probably looking at the >>> better part of $10k. >>> > >>> > For hull/freeboard paint I suggest that avoid the original Awlgrip >>> (color and clear coat in one shot) since blending a repair is such a >>> challenge and costly. The newer Awlgrip 2000 is easier to blend and repair >>> and for boats of this age is glossy enough despite not being a color and >>> clear coat combo... Just glossy color. Either way you will want to follow >>> the manufacturers care instructions closely. You might want to make sure >>> your discussion includes re-gelcoating as an alternative to paint. Many >>> people discount this as an option but it is one you might not have >>> considered. The PO had mine partially re-gelcoated and I'm happy with it's >>> appearance and it's care is "normal". Wash, polish, wax. >>> > >>> > When you say it needs a bottom job, what degree of bottom are you >>> referring to. Just a haul, block, and wash with a sand and paint is gonna >>> be about $1k. If you soda blast (or dry ice blast) then you're probably >>> gonna need a least a little fill and fare and then probably a barrier coat >>> and bottom paint which is also gonna push you close to $10k. If you get >>> into remediation such as smile and blister repair then you're almost >>> guaranteed $10k+ >>> > >>> > Josh Muckley >>> > S/V Sea Hawk >>> > 1989 C&C 37+ >>> > Solomons, MD >>> > >>> > On Sep 6, 2015 11:21 AM, "Juno via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Hi Dave, thanks! I've read just about every article on this model >>> and have been laying after one but I never thought all the stars would EVER >>> align enough to actually own one! >>> >> >>> >> the wife is not overly enthused about the dark wood interior but she >>> couldn't deny the exceptional value of this particular boat. I've got some >>> work to do, mostly cosmetic, to make her as beautiful as she should be. >>> the biggest issue is topside paint. It has an awlgrip job thats peeling >>> terribly. the surveyor was trying to convince me to do it myself and go >>> with white fur more forgiveness. I don't think I'd like to take on a job >>> like that. It seems to big for one guy to on his own. I guess if I had it >>> inside in my back yard all winter I might give it a shot. >>> >> >>> >> It's also in need of a bottom job. this will be my 3rd boat in >>> desperate need of a bottom job. I'm going to try and have those 2 things >>> done over this winter if I can get a reasonable price. >>> >> >>> >> does anyone have any idea what I might expect to pay for top sides >>> and bottom job? >>> >> >>> >> geeze, I hope you guys don't mind me staying apart of the group >>> now... lol. I'd be lost without you all! >>> >> >>> >> Danny >>> >> closing soon! >>> >> Massachusetts >>> >> >>> >> DJH >>> >> >>> >> On Dave Godwin <dave.god...@me.com>, Sep 6, 2015 4:41 AM wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Congratulations. There’s one sitting in my slip at my house right >>> now. It’s owned by a Norwegian couple that have spent three (winter) >>> seasons in the Bahamas on it. They’re currently prepping to do do it again >>> with a stop in NYC before heading South. >>> >>> >>> >>> They’re planning on stopping back at our place on the way down and >>> I’ll probably be crewing on the leg from the Chesapeake to Charleston, >>> outside. Big, sturdy boat and all set up for offshore work, including a >>> nice wind vane. Which I know absolutely nothing about.. >>> >>> >>> >>> If I were home I’d walk down and take a picture and send it to you >>> but it will be gone by the time I get back. >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Dave in BCN >>> >>> >>> >>> > On Sep 4, 2015, at 11:05 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List < >>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> >>> > >>> >>> > OK all. It's looking like we're going to be proud owners of a >>> 1985 tartan 40. Survey went well we have come to terms on price, AND I had >>> absolutely no problem with financing a 30 year old boat. All there is to >>> do now is finalize paperwork and the yard down there is taking care of a >>> few things for me! >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> >>> >> Email address: >>> >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>> bottom of page at: >>> >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>> bottom of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >> bottom of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > >
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