Josh

We run a much longer and smaller diameter line than that which came in our 4:1 
purchase on our check stays.  We ease it out and the boom can extend as far as 
we wish downwind without running the check stays forward.  When we harden up or 
gybe we just haul the line back in.  Seems to work well.

Our setup sounds very similar to yours

Mike

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Chuck,

You mentioned a winch, which made me start questioning my setup.  The wire from 
the mast terminates about 2-3 ft above the deck at a 4:1 fiddle block system 
with cam-cleat.  The snap shackle on the lower  fiddle block allows attachment 
to the toe rail in various locations.

If I attach the check stays as far aft as possible on the toe rail then they 
interfere with the boom and main when sailing anything broader than a close 
reach.  So i have to loosen them.  Down wind enough and I have to move them 
forward on the rail.  There is a sweet spot where they don't interfere too 
badly with either the 135% headsail or the main.  I still have to loosen them 
on deep downwind runs.

The 4:1 doesn't seem to be enough purchase.  You also mentioned a winch?  Is 
this the same setup you have?

Thanks,
Josh
On Jul 31, 2015 8:03 AM, "Chuck S via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Josh,
You may have fun with this?  When you tighten the backstay to tighten the 
headstay, you should see the mast bend and the middle of the mast will move 
forward flattening the main.  In light and moderate winds, we use the runners 
to pull the middle of the mast straight and the main bellys out and we surge 
ahead.  On a reach or sailing downwind the speed increase of .5 to 1 knot can 
be felt by the crew.  I mark the runner tail where it meets the winch so I can 
repeat the setting easily.  Sailing upwind I have them on but need the main 
flatter cause the genoa is sheeted inboard and backwinding the main.

Truth be told, I've also raced many times in light winds w the runners bungied 
to the chainplates.

Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Running Back Stays

I don't race my 37+ so take this with a grain of salt but my check stays just 
seem to just get in the way.  I still set them but they don't really seem to do 
much.  I've watched for pumping but it never seems to be a problem.  Weird 
thing is I kinda like having them.  Sorta like my pinky toes, I don't know what 
they do, if anything, but I still like having them and chose not to remove them.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 10:21 PM, scott gary via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi All,

Looking at a 37/40XL and I know they have running back stays, anyone who has 
them, are they a pain in the neck, or do you not use them all the time.  I am 
not planning on doing much racing, mostly cruising.  I've heard of people on 
other types of boats just removing them all together.

Thanks,
Scott
C&C 35/3

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