I’ve had the same thought myself. What a shame if a gem of a shop like Garhauer got big and well known like Harken?
Garhauer would be more profitable, but prices would go up, custom work would be out, and customer service would suffer. I’ve got nothing against Harken, really, I even have a few Harken blocks on both my boats and all the stuff on my Tanzer 16 is Harken because Garhauer doesn’t make stuff that small. But by and large the Garhauer stuff works as well, looks like it is more durable and costs less than half of comparable Harken hardware – it’s just a better value. Let’s keep it a secret, just among us C&C folks. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 4:12 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Garhauer Rigid Boom Vang +1 on that. But I am not sure if we should spread the word too far. We risk that everyone would flock to Garhauer and they would be overwhelmed, raise the prices and drop the customer support. we cannot afford to deal with overly successful companies. We probably should keep quiet about it. Marek From: Rick Brass via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:55 PM To: 'Peter Fell' <mailto:prf...@gmail.com> ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Garhauer Rigid Boom Vang If you talk to Guido he will make you a traveler specifically made to fit the space/clearance issues of the recess. That is what he did for the traveler for my 38: Taller track and slightly narrower car for clearance in the recess, longer than normal length to maximize the amount of travel, drilled the track to match the spacing/pattern of the old traveler track to simplify installation, and custom plates for the turning blocks and cam cleats to make it easier to trim from the helm. All the mods done at no charge. It’s a couple of ounces (maybe pounds) heavier than Harken, and not as gee whiz as a windward sheeting setup, but it is also very strong, very effective, and 1/3 the cost. And you just can’t beat the service. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Peter Fell via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:36 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Garhauer Rigid Boom Vang Thanks guys I do like the Garhauer stuff. Not sure if I mentioned before but I have a Garhauer mainsheet set-up (but Harken parts for a new traveller, due to the space/clearance limitations in the traveller recess in front of the companionway), miscellaneous other blocks and I just acquired Garhauer towable genoa cars. Peter Fell Sidney, BC Cygnet C&C 27 MkIII From: Paul Fountain via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 8:47 AM To: Gary Nylander <mailto:gnylan...@atlanticbb.net> ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Garhauer Rigid Boom Vang We’ve had a Garhauer on Perception for over 10 years have been very pleased with it – have added a lot of other Garhauer stuff as a result - blocks, sheaves, traveller …. Always great price for great quality, and very helpful when you need custom things like sheaves, and goose necks. Paul Fountain Managing Director SeaSource Inc. Bookkeeping & IT Services. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Nylander via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 11:16 AM To: Bill Bina - gmail; cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Garhauer Rigid Boom Vang Amen to that. I have had the Garhauer rigid vang for many years on my 30-1 (probably one size up from what would work on a 27) and race on a J-80 with a boomkicker. I find the Garhauer or others like it (raced on another J-80 with a Harken) to be much easier to use and adjust than the boomkicker. We have to haul hard to get the boomkicker to adjust and the boom fitting has given us grief in just two years of use. My Garhauer has had no problems...and has been raced for over a dozen years. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 10:16 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Garhauer Rigid Boom Vang Garhauer rigid vang is $400-$500, not $1200. I have one on my 27-5 and it is perfect. Garhauer is a great company to deal with, and their stuff is very high quality. Bill Bina On 3/4/2015 10:04 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: Peter Consider a Boom kicker in conjunction with your soft vang as another option. Plan on $300 brand new. On our J-27 I opted for a US Spars rigid vang for $400 new. I gave away my rope vang and blocks (the fiddle block was 1 year old) when I added this. Most of the J27 fleet went with the boomkicker. The US Spars vang includes line and blocks attached to vang. After the first year I decided I did not like this arrangement and added a rope vang with new blocks in addition to the rigid vang and was happy with that. Took the price up close to $200. I likely should have gone with the boomkicker. The C&C 27 is a fairly small boat with a much smaller sail plan that the J27 and of course much smaller than C&C 30. The arrangements described above would work well on your 27. The only thing I was less satisfied with on the US Spars rigid vang was the boom attachment which is a bit lighter weight than I would like. However again the C&C 27 has a smaller sail plan and less pressures than the J27. Unfortunately I do not have pictures. The weakness of the boom end attachment for the US Spars vang was that it only had 2 rivets and with the blocks on the rigid vang itself there was tremendous pressure on those rivets when vang on tight. With the rigid vang being used for upward pressure and a traditional rope and block vang for downward pressure and attached at the bail on the boom as designed this pressure is gone. I do hope this helps. A $1200 rigid vang is very much overkill on a 27. Buy something new for $400 or less Mike Persistence Frers 33 _____ _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _____ _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _____ _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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