I’ve had the same thought myself. What a shame if a gem of a shop like Garhauer 
got big and well known like Harken? 

 

Garhauer would be more profitable, but prices would go up, custom work would be 
out, and customer service would suffer.

 

I’ve got nothing against Harken, really, I even have a few Harken blocks on 
both my boats and all the stuff on my Tanzer 16 is Harken because Garhauer 
doesn’t make stuff that small. But by and large the Garhauer stuff works as 
well, looks like it is more durable and costs less than half of comparable 
Harken hardware – it’s just a better value.

 

Let’s keep it a secret, just among us C&C folks. 

 

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
Dziedzic via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 4:12 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Garhauer Rigid Boom Vang

 

+1 on that. 

 

But I am not sure if we should spread the word too far. We risk that everyone 
would flock to Garhauer and they would be overwhelmed, raise the prices and 
drop the customer support.  we cannot afford to deal with overly successful 
companies. We probably should keep quiet about it.

 

Marek

 

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Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:55 PM

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Garhauer Rigid Boom Vang

 

If you talk  to Guido he will make you a traveler specifically made to fit the 
space/clearance issues of the recess. That is what he did for the traveler for 
my 38: Taller track and slightly narrower car for clearance in the recess, 
longer than normal length to maximize the amount of travel, drilled the track 
to match the spacing/pattern of the old traveler track to simplify 
installation, and custom plates for the turning blocks and cam cleats to make 
it easier to trim from the helm. All the mods done at no charge.

 

It’s a couple of ounces (maybe pounds) heavier than Harken, and not as gee whiz 
as a windward sheeting setup, but it is also very strong, very effective, and 
1/3 the cost.

 

And you just can’t beat the service.

 

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:36 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Garhauer Rigid Boom Vang

 

Thanks guys

 

I do like the Garhauer stuff. Not sure if I mentioned before but I have a 
Garhauer mainsheet set-up (but Harken parts for a new traveller, due to the 
space/clearance limitations in the traveller recess in front of the 
companionway), miscellaneous other blocks and I just acquired Garhauer towable 
genoa cars. 

 

Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
C&C 27 MkIII

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Garhauer Rigid Boom Vang

 

We’ve had a Garhauer on Perception for over 10 years have been very pleased 
with it – have added a lot of  other Garhauer  stuff as a result - blocks, 
sheaves, traveller …. Always great price for great quality, and very helpful 
when you need custom things like sheaves, and goose necks.

 

Paul Fountain

Managing Director

SeaSource Inc.

Bookkeeping & IT Services.

 

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Amen to that. I have had the Garhauer rigid vang for many years on my 30-1 
(probably one size up from what would work on a 27) and race on a J-80 with a 
boomkicker. I find the Garhauer or others like it (raced on another J-80 with a 
Harken) to be much easier to use and adjust than the boomkicker. We have to 
haul hard to get the boomkicker to adjust and the boom fitting has given us 
grief in just two years of use. My Garhauer has had no problems...and has been 
raced for over a dozen years.

 

Gary

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Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 10:16 AM

Subject: Re: Stus-List Garhauer Rigid Boom Vang

 

Garhauer rigid vang is $400-$500, not $1200. I have one on my 27-5 and it is 
perfect. Garhauer is a great company to deal with, and their stuff is very high 
quality. 

Bill Bina

On 3/4/2015 10:04 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:

Peter

Consider a Boom kicker in conjunction with your soft vang as another option.  
Plan on $300 brand new.  On our J-27 I opted for a US Spars rigid vang for $400 
new.  I gave away my rope vang and blocks (the fiddle block was 1 year old) 
when I added this.  Most of the J27 fleet went with the boomkicker.  The US 
Spars vang includes line and blocks attached to vang.  After the first year I 
decided I did not like this arrangement and added a rope vang with new blocks 
in addition to the rigid vang and was happy with that.  Took the price up close 
to $200.  I likely should have gone with the boomkicker.

The C&C 27 is a fairly small boat with a much smaller sail plan that the J27 
and of course much smaller than C&C 30.  The arrangements described above would 
work well on your 27.  The only thing I was less satisfied with on the US Spars 
rigid vang was the boom attachment which is a bit lighter weight than I would 
like.  However again the C&C 27 has a smaller sail plan and less pressures than 
the J27.

Unfortunately I do not have pictures.

The weakness of the boom end attachment for the US Spars vang was that it only 
had 2 rivets and with the blocks on the rigid vang itself there was tremendous 
pressure on those rivets when vang on tight.  With the rigid vang being used 
for upward pressure and a traditional rope and block vang for downward pressure 
and attached at the bail on the boom as designed this pressure is gone.

I do hope this helps.  A $1200 rigid vang is very much overkill on a 27.  Buy 
something new for $400 or less

Mike

Persistence

Frers 33

 

 


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