Burt,

 

Only the Lazy Jacks don't require changes to your main sail. Both stack pack 
and the Dutchman system might require a completely new main (or major 
modifications to it) or a new sail cover.

 

You can buy the Harken set or what I would suggest, assemble your own kit. This 
is not an overly complicated task. Fortunately, Harken and many others publish 
pretty good pictures and diagrams which you can use.

 

A few points that you might find useful:

- If you make your own set, be prepared that the amount of line required for 
the lazy jacks is way more than you would ever imagine. If I remember correctly 
I needed over 70 ft for a single Y system (two lines going to the boom). I 
eventually switched to three lines to the boom and it was around 100 ft. Keep 
in mind that it is usually much easier to cut the line than to make it longer 
(;-).

 

- If it works for you, consider attaching the top end of the lazy jacks to the 
spreaders (10-15 cm/4-6" from the mast). This would make raising the sail much 
easier as the "slot" between the lines would be wider.

 

- Many would say that using stainless steel rings, instead of little blocks is 
fine. My experience showed that the SS rings almost cut through the line 
(chafe) in one season. YMMV.

 

- And lastly, if the cost of the Harken set seems prohibitive, but you are not 
feeling like assembling the set yourself, you should be able to find something 
in a local chandlery or on-line. For comparison, e.g. Sailboat Owners sells the 
Harken kit for around $360, but Catalina Direct sells a similar set (not brand 
name) for about $210. The fact that it is "Catalina Direct" does not mean that 
the set would not be useful, because there is nothing specific about the lazy 
jacks; it is just a few pieces of hardware, a piece of line and a few blocks. A 
kit like that has an advantage, because it comes with all screws, bolts, drill 
bits, taps, Tef-gel and instructions. Guessing from how you asked you question, 
you might not have too much experience with boat work, so a kit like that might 
be an easier way to tackle the job.

 

Good luck

 

Marek (in cold Ottawa)

Btw. It was so cold tonight (around -25 - -27 C at the hill, plus the 
wind-chill) that the local ski hill closed; second time this year!

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Burt 
Stratton via CnC-List
Sent: February-23-15 21:07
To: 'Dennis C.'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Furling the main

 

Dennis,

 

Believe it or not I used that method out of desperation. I was admittedly a 
little embarrassed. I thought I was just demonstrating my lack of experience. I 
was also pretty happy with the result. I appreciate knowing otherwise. Newport 
has some pretty accomplished (and judgmental) sailors. There have been times I 
just gave up on the main and sailed with head sail only. This list is 
invaluable. Thanks

 

I will look into the lazy jack system. I think it would be a reasonable upgrade 
to my rig. I am having the entire rig inspected soon. The rigger is going to 
pick it up in March. I’ll speak to them about this. Hopefully it cost less than 
all new self-tailing winches. 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 8:23 PM
To: CnClist
Subject: Re: Stus-List Furling the main

 

Burt,

Lazy jacks, Dutchman systems, etc. are all nice.  I've installed several Harken 
Lazy Jack systems.

However, try this simple cost free solution.  This is what I do when single 
handing.

Release the halyard and let the sail drop.  Put a couple sail ties around your 
neck.  Stand on one side of the boom in the middle and throw the main to the 
other side.  Then lean over the boom and roll the sail into itself.  Continue 
until it's a compact roll.  Wrap a sail tie around the rolled/bundled sail 
tying it to the boom.

Once you're anchored or docked, undo the roll and flake it nicely.

I heard this technique described as "pocketing the main".

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

mandeville, LA

 

On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

This is another newby question but I know you guys will be kind… and helpful

 

I spoke with another sailor this weekend who informed me that there is some 
sort of rigging set up that actually assists in the raising and lowering of 
one’s mains’l

 

I cannot for the life of me remember what it was called but I have seen them on 
many other yachts. It looks like a web of lines on both sides of the main. The 
function being to help furl it onto the top of your boom when lowering or 
keeping it out of the water when raising. It also looks like it might second as 
a topping lift.

 

Mt question is what is it called and where might I find it (or is it something 
we just make out of spare lines and install ourselves… because we are sailors, 
after all)

 

This could be the answer to my primary concern sailing with a crew that 
specializes in mixology. I can furl my jib myself while driving the boat 
(roller furl). The main is by far my biggest challenge.

 

1974 C&C 33 - 3 quarter tonner

On keel blocks in 5 feet of snow

Walpole, MA

 


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