Definitely looks to be a 38 hull! Maybe this is the mysterious Mk1 38! A lot of 
us 38 owners are puzzled by the Mk1 vs Mk2 differences and I think that I 
remember someone commenting that C&C made a series of custom 1 ton racers that 
constituted the Mk1 class and the Mk2 were the production version of the same 
design. The boat in the listing looks just like my boat but the specs are a 
little different, LOA 38 vs my 37’7”, LWL 28’4” versus my 29’7”, raft 6’5” vs 
my 6’1”, and beam 12’2” vs my 12’0”. Curious....
James
S/V Delaney
1976 C&C 38
Oriental NC

From: Rick Taillieu via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 3:43 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Stus-List Custom C&C Race boats (was - boat terms)

While we’re on the subject of custom C&C race boats does anyone know anything 
about this one?

It looks like a 38 MK I or II hull with a mostly flush deck and racing cabin 
layout.

At first I thought it might be the One Tonner but the deck layout in the 
pictures is quite different than in the magazine ad that I have a scan of.

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1975/C%26C-38-2744779/Canada#.VGEhiclMpD4

 

 

Rick Taillieu

Nemesis

'75 C&C 25  #371

Shearwater Yacht Club

Halifax, NS.

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Burt 
Stratton via CnC-List
Sent: November-10-14 15:12
To: 'Martin DeYoung'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com; 'jtsails'
Subject: Re: Stus-List boat terms

 

Somehow I knew this was an easy one for all you listers. Thanks so much. My 
next stop is IOR ton rating. Had no clue…

 

I wonder now how many and for how long C&C made these custom class-racers.  

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin 
DeYoung via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 1:55 PM
To: jtsails; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List boat terms

 

Burt,

 

James’ answer leading you to search using “IOR ton rating is good advice.  In 
short, the term “ton” was based on an IOR rating band that allowed IOR boats to 
race “one design”.  IIRC the popular “ton” classes were: ¼. ½, ¾, 1, and 2. 
Sailing Anarchy has had several recent topics that cover IOR and “Ton” racing 
well.

 

Calypso would have rated as a 2 tonner. A J-24 sized boat would be close to a ¼ 
tonner.  Today there is a resurgence of ton class racing with ¼ and ½ ton 
regattas being well attended.  Boats that had been neglected for years are 
being resurrected, modernized and raced hard.

 

Back in the heyday of IOR racing I had the opportunities to race extensively on 
¾, 1, and 2 ton class boats.  The racing was tight and fun.  We used bloopers.  
In the PNW town of Bellingham a regatta called PITCH (Pacific International Ton 
Championship) was started in the early 80’s.  The racing was as intense as the 
partying. Protest meeting often went past dinner time.

 

Martin

Calypso

1971 C&C 43

Seattle



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