This is why I got another A4. I could not figure out how to get a decent
prop for a reduction gear engine without extending the shaft.

Joe Della Barba
j...@dellabarba.com
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
-----Original Message-----
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Carl
Gerstle via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 10:00 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List 35-1 drivetrain replacement (prop, engine HP,
transmission ratio)

Having searched the archives and not found this info, I feel the need to
ask...

I am committed to a re-power this winter and am surprised at the difficulty
in choosing an appropriate prop which then leads to the appropriate engine
HP and transmission choices. I already have input from two other 35-1 owners
but am looking for a wider array of input. My old engine/tranny/prop is the
venerable Atomic-4, 1:1 tranny, 12x6 folding prop. The new engine will be a
BetaMarine... but either 20 or 25 HP depending on how much power a prop that
FITS can absorb through a choice of a 1.45:1, 2:1, or 2.6:1 transmission.

As I really don't want to face the added expense of upsizing the shaft from
7/8" to 1" (even a 14" prop can be safely driven on a 7/8" Aquamet shaft) or
worse - moving and replacing the strut to gain prop diameter - please
provide whatever real-world info you have on the prop (make, diameter,
pitch); engine HP, and transmission ratio that you are using on your 35-1.

It turns out that the prop make/model is critical due to the effective hub
length. For instance, my current folder places the blades 5 5/8" behind the
strut (5" hub, with 5/8" exposed shaft). The prop I am considering
(Flexofold 13") has only a 4.5" hub length, while a Martec 14" appears to be
a beefy 9" from hub to blade pivot. So the length of the hub has a large
effect on tip clearance. As Dave Gerr (The Propellor Handbook) recommends an
absolute minimum of 10% clearance (a 14" prop thus needs 7" + 1.4" clearance
from shaft center to hull) - I only have 8" clearance with a 4.5" hub) - a
longer prop hub allows for greater prop diameter (a very good thing). So
real-world experience - including your experience with speed, prop noise,
and vibration from using a small blade tip to hull clearance would be
invaluable to me. 

The problem is complex enough that Flexofold actually refused to recommend a
prop, tranny drive ratio, and HP requirement; and recommended that I work
with a boat-builder to work out these choices.

Your actual numbers and knowledge will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Carl Gerstle 
Impulse 
C&C 35-1 #149 
Portsmouth, RI 

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