I had my 38 hauled out to have some glass work done on the knife edge of the
transom, because some moron bumped it (300-ft space between docks).
While it was up on sticks I figured I get some work done, like zincs, grease
the maxi prop, etc.
I notice something with my strut.
I have moisture around the base of the strut, in the form of a square. 
Strut seems to be tight, to the untrained eye.
I understand after they are installed (bolted up) they are glazed in, using
epoxy or fairing or a combination, possibly even glassed in (rare).
The cause can be vibration from misalignment, worn cutlass bearing or loose
bolts or again any combination.
Anyone ever have this issue and have some suggestions.
I believe the filler to smooth it out is cracked.
Thanks
Larry

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re:  Mast Self-Climbers? (Petar Horvatic)
   2. Re:  Farley Mowat and thanks (Paul Fountain)
   3. Re:  Farley Mowat and thanks (Robert Mazza)
   4. Re:  sailing this weekend (Eric Baumes)
   5. Re:  Mast Self-Climbers (Paul Baker)
   6. Re:  Butyl (dwight)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 10:19:12 -0400
From: "Petar Horvatic" <phorv...@gmail.com>
To: "'Edd Schillay'" <e...@schillay.com>,       <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?
Message-ID: <01d301cfea15$5463c070$fd2b4150$@com>
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I built one of these but using starboard instead of marine ply.  I also had
a bigger eye at the bottom to guide the line easier.

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo167/knuterikt/mastClimber-2.jpg

 

I ascended once to the top this year, and few times to the 1st spreader.  My
girlfriend was there to belay the safety halyard for the way up and down.
But I was able to pull my weight without a problem.  It takes a bit getting
used to and always have a safety line.    

 

Petar Horvatic

Sundowner

76 C&C 38MkII

Newport, RI

 

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd
Schillay via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:59 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?

 

Listers,

 

            Now that the Enterprise is up for the winter, I'm starting my
list of projects -- One of which is some mast work. 

 

            Has anyone on the list ever rigged their own mast self-climber,
and, if so, what did you use. 

 

            There's an article about it in the latest issue of Practical
Sailor, so it's on my mind.

 

            And no, the transporter can't materialize me at the top of the
mast. 

 

                All the best,

 

                Edd

 

 

                Edd M. Schillay

                Starship Enterprise

                C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

                City Island, NY 

                Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
<http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> 

 

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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:26:21 +0000
From: Paul Fountain <p...@seasource.ca>
To: "Richard N. Bush" <bushma...@aol.com>, "<cnc-list@cnc-list.com>"
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks
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Sadly Farley Mowat recently passed away.

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Sometime last spring, someone on the list mentioned that he was reading the
Farley Mowat book; "The Boat Who Wouldn't Float"; I had never heard of Mr.
Mowat, but noted that the comment was that the book was enjoyable. So I
picked up a used paperback copy on ebay.  I laid it aside during spring
launch and other activities, and came across it a couple of weeks ago.   I
just finished the book and I am hooked. This was a great read and I couldn't
put it down.  Since I know little of the northern waters described in the
book, I kept my laptop next to me and scoped out all of the places they
went, which made it even more enjoyable.   So thank you to whomever it was
that suggested the book, I am now a Mowat fan!

Richard
1985 37 CB, Ohio River, Mile 584;
Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Watts via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
To: Dennis C. <capt...@gmail.com<mailto:capt...@gmail.com>>; 1 CnC List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Fri, Oct 17, 2014 12:11 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl

Interlux Special Thinner 216 dissolves butyl beautifully and leaves no
noticeable residue. I use it to prep many surfaces for painting or caulking.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 16 October 2014 20:11, Dennis C. via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Goo Gone or similar.  Final clean with denatured alcohol.

BTW, denatured alcohol removes uncured, repeat uncured, 5200 well.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
But the question was "what would remove butyl where it was not wanted".
Agreed varsol and paint thinner leave an 'oily film'.....why wouldn't they,
they are petroleum based.

But varsol and paint thinner will remove butyl and will not harm your deck
paint any more than the splashing of diesel fuel we apply to our deck paint,
annually!

So clean any space that needs proper sealing, clean it after the butyl is
removed with TSP and/or acetone if the substrate can tolerate acetone.

What product would you recommend Mike use to clean his unwanted butyl ?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.




On 2014/10/15 1:50 PM, Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List wrote:
My experiance with varsol and paint thinner is that they leave residue that
prevents proper sealing.

--- Original Message ---

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<cnc-list@cnc-list.com><mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: 15 October, 2014 11:30 AM
To: "Hoyt, Mike" <mike.h...@impgroup.com><mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com>,
cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Stus-List Butyl

Mike:
Varsol or any paint thinner will clean butyl.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

Unstepped the mast yesterday.....being hauled out any day now!




On 2014/10/15 10:34 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:
The one thing I have always hated about Butyl was trying to remove it from
where it was not wanted.  Old fittings being rebidded that had been using
butyl would always result in butyl stuck everywhere on non skid and nearly
impossible to remove.  Is there some sort of cleaner/solvent that rids us of
that?

Mike
Still sailing in Nova Scotia on Persistence




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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 10:57:36 -0400
From: Robert Mazza <robertlma...@gmail.com>
To: Paul Fountain <p...@seasource.ca>,  "C&C Mailing List"
        <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks
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One of his best books was "And No Birds Sang", the story of his experience
fighting with the Hasty Ps of the Canadian Army in Italy in WWII. He landed
in Sicily and fought all the way up to Ortona, where he finally succumbed to
battle fatigue. It took him a long time to decide to write that book. It was
published in 1979. His father's boat, and the boat that he grew up with in
Hastings and Patricia Counties in the Bay of Quinte is part of the
collection of the Marine Museum of the Great Lakes at Kingston, and has been
recently restored.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Paul Fountain via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>  Sadly Farley Mowat recently passed away.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List < 
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>   Sometime last spring, someone on the list mentioned that he was 
> reading the Farley Mowat book; "The Boat Who Wouldn't Float"; I had 
> never heard of Mr. Mowat, but noted that the comment was that the book 
> was enjoyable. So I picked up a used paperback copy on ebay.  I laid it
aside during spring
> launch and other activities, and came across it a couple of weeks ago.   I
> just finished the book and I am hooked. This was a great read and I 
> couldn't put it down.  Since I know little of the northern waters 
> described in the book, I kept my laptop next to me and scoped out all of
> the places they went, which made it even more enjoyable.   So thank you to
> whomever it was that suggested the book, I am now a Mowat fan!
>
>  Richard
> 1985 37 CB, Ohio River, Mile 584;
>  Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Watts via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> To: Dennis C. <capt...@gmail.com>; 1 CnC List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Fri, Oct 17, 2014 12:11 am
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl
>
>  Interlux Special Thinner 216 dissolves butyl beautifully and leaves 
> no noticeable residue. I use it to prep many surfaces for painting or 
> caulking.
>
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
>
> On 16 October 2014 20:11, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
>>   Goo Gone or similar.  Final clean with denatured alcohol.
>>
>>  BTW, denatured alcohol removes uncured, repeat uncured, 5200 well.
>>
>>  Dennis C.
>>  Touche' 35-1 #83
>>  Mandeville, LA
>>
>>  On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List < 
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>>   But the question was "what would remove butyl where it was not 
>>> wanted".  Agreed varsol and paint thinner leave an 'oily 
>>> film'.....why wouldn't they, they are petroleum based.
>>>
>>> But varsol and paint thinner will remove butyl and will not harm 
>>> your deck paint any more than the splashing of diesel fuel we apply 
>>> to our deck paint, annually!
>>>
>>> So clean any space that needs proper sealing, clean it after the 
>>> butyl is removed with TSP and/or acetone if the substrate can tolerate
acetone.
>>>
>>> What product would you recommend Mike use to clean his unwanted butyl ?
>>>
>>> Rob Abbott
>>> AZURA
>>> C&C 32 - 84
>>> Halifax, N.S.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2014/10/15 1:50 PM, Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List wrote:
>>>
>>> My experiance with varsol and paint thinner is that they leave 
>>> residue that prevents proper sealing.
>>>
>>> --- Original Message ---
>>>
>>> From: "Robert Abbott via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>> Sent: 15 October, 2014 11:30 AM
>>> To: "Hoyt, Mike" <mike.h...@impgroup.com> <mike.h...@impgroup.com>, 
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Subject: Stus-List Butyl
>>>
>>>  Mike:
>>> Varsol or any paint thinner will clean butyl.
>>>
>>> Rob Abbott
>>> AZURA
>>> C&C 32 - 84
>>> Halifax, N.S.
>>>
>>> Unstepped the mast yesterday.....being hauled out any day now!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2014/10/15 10:34 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:
>>>
>>>  The one thing I have always hated about Butyl was trying to remove 
>>> it from where it was not wanted.  Old fittings being rebidded that 
>>> had been using butyl would always result in butyl stuck everywhere 
>>> on non skid and nearly impossible to remove.  Is there some sort of 
>>> cleaner/solvent that rids us of that?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> Still sailing in Nova Scotia on Persistence
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 10:59:56 -0400
From: Eric Baumes <eric.bau...@gmail.com>
To: Tim Goodyear <timg...@gmail.com>, cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend
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Please post pictures of the blooper.

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> We will be racing on Sunday in Branford, CT.  The "Around the Bouys"
> Wednesday night series transitions to Sundays between Labor Day and 
> end of October .  The course is normally set around a few nearby 
> government marks, but this week is slightly different with a course 
> out around Faulkner's Island (about 10nm) away and back.  The forecast 
> is for ~50 degrees, no rain, 20kn - downwind on the way out. I'm 
> planning to break the blooper out for the first time since I've owned 
> Mojito as we have a few experienced people on board and a long leg to play
with it.
>
> It's a very casual race so any other C&C's around Branford would be 
> very welcome if they just turn up and announce themselves on Ch 68.  
> Warning signal is 11:00am at Cow & Calf just outside the harbor.
>
> Tim
> Mojito
> C&C 35-3
> Branford, CT
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < 
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>>  Anyone headed out? It looks like we?ll have frontal passage here 
>> Saturday night, so the plan is to go to Baltimore and then sail home 
>> with
>> 15 knots on the stern Sunday. We were going to go to Saint Michaels, 
>> but the forecast is uphill both ways and I don?t trust Kent Narrows 
>> with a strong northerly.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Joe Della Barba*
>>
>> *Coquina*
>>
>> *C&C 35*
>>
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 09:26:26 -0600 (MDT)
From: Paul Baker <pauljba...@shaw.ca>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers
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I have a similar system except I use a prussic loop rather than the bachman,
and then two climbing tapes to go from loop to harness or feet, I think they
are more secure and they work in both directions should you find yourself
upside down for some reason.

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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:02:35 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers


Edd, 


I have rigged a mast self climber using rock climbing gear that I had on
hand. 
I used my rock climbing harness, three carabiners, two cords (about half the
diameter of your spinnaker halyard) and the spinnaker halyard. 
All the gear is rated for climbing so I was confident that my safety was not
in jeopardy. 
As a back up, I had a friend "belay" me by keeping tension on the main
halyard that I rigged into the system. 


You will have to experiment with the length of the two cords so that one
will be attached to your harness (which you will sit down in to take the
weight off your feet), and one cord will extend down to your feet (which you
will stand on to take the weight off your harness). 
The cords are attached around both strands of your spinnaker halyard using a
carabiner (one carabiner for each cord) and a bachmann hitch and one of the
cords is attached to your harness and the other is rigged with loops for
your feet to fit into. 


The third carabiner is attached to the main halyard and clipped through the
harness climbing loops (NOT THROUGH THE BELAY LOOP). 


I start by sitting in the harness (now the bachmann hitch grabs tight to the
spinnaker halyard and my weight is transferred to the spin hal). 
I then bend my knees and lift up my feet ?as close to my but as I can get
them. 
This will put slack in the cord with the foot loops and you then move the
bachmann hitch up the spin hal as far as you can reach. 
Now straighten your legs and stand on the foot loops and your weight will be
supported by the bachmann hitch and cord to your feet. 
This will put slack in the other cord to your harness so you move that
bachmann hitch up the spin hal as far as you can reach. 
Now sit into your harness and raise your feet to start the cycle over again.
?Repeat until you are as far up the mast as you want to go. 


To come down reverse the process. 


The advantage of this system is that it cost me nothing (I already had all
the gear) and I did not have to purchase ascenders as the bachmann hitch
worked just fine. 
The other advantage is that the lack of ascenders used results in no damage
to the spinnaker halyard ?and no need to purchase an extra rope to climb the
mast. 


If you visit your local indoor climbing gym I am sure they will be able to
advise you on the gear that you will need for this simple system. 


In a pinch (emergency) you can use this system to climb the mast yourself,
but always have someone belay you with the main halyard if possible. 


Cheers, 
Joseph Sisson 
S/V Silent Runner 
1975 C&C 35 MKII 













On 2014-10-16, at 7:18 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: 


Now that the Enterprise is up for the winter, I'm starting my list of 
projects -- One of which is some mast work. ? 



Has anyone on the list ever rigged their own mast self-climber, and, if so, 
what did you use. ? 


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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 12:49:53 -0300
From: "dwight" <dwight...@gmail.com>
To: "'Jim Watts'" <paradigmat...@gmail.com>,    <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl
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Interlux Special Thinner 216 smells just like xylene, availble from most
paint stores for 1/3 the price.xylene works  

 

Dwight Veinot

C&C 35MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

  _____  

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Watts
via CnC-List
Sent: October 17, 2014 1:11 AM
To: Dennis C.; 1 CnC List
Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl

 

Interlux Special Thinner 216 dissolves butyl beautifully and leaves no
noticeable residue. I use it to prep many surfaces for painting or caulking.





Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

 

On 16 October 2014 20:11, Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

Goo Gone or similar.  Final clean with denatured alcohol.

BTW, denatured alcohol removes uncured, repeat uncured, 5200 well.

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

But the question was "what would remove butyl where it was not wanted".
Agreed varsol and paint thinner leave an 'oily film'.....why wouldn't they,
they are petroleum based. 

But varsol and paint thinner will remove butyl and will not harm your deck
paint any more than the splashing of diesel fuel we apply to our deck paint,
annually!

So clean any space that needs proper sealing, clean it after the butyl is
removed with TSP and/or acetone if the substrate can tolerate acetone. 

What product would you recommend Mike use to clean his unwanted butyl ?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.




On 2014/10/15 1:50 PM, Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List wrote:

My experiance with varsol and paint thinner is that they leave residue that
prevents proper sealing.  

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From: "Robert Abbott via CnC-List"  <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
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Sent: 15 October, 2014 11:30 AM
To: "Hoyt, Mike"  <mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com> <mike.h...@impgroup.com>,
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Subject: Stus-List Butyl

Mike:
Varsol or any paint thinner will clean butyl.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

Unstepped the mast yesterday.....being hauled out any day now!




On 2014/10/15 10:34 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:

The one thing I have always hated about Butyl was trying to remove it from
where it was not wanted.  Old fittings being rebidded that had been using
butyl would always result in butyl stuck everywhere on non skid and nearly
impossible to remove.  Is there some sort of cleaner/solvent that rids us of
that?

 

Mike

Still sailing in Nova Scotia on Persistence

 

 

 

 

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