I am not up to speed on all of the high tech lines that are now available, but 
is it not possible to buy lines that are already pre-stretched?
The story you tell could be an argument for sticking with my tried and true 
wire and polyester halyards, but I did buy an ATN Top Climber, and I want to 
purchase the right rope. 

Steve 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: coltrek via CnC-List 
  To: Joel Aronson ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com ; Josh Muckley 
  Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:45 PM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?


  I had a lot of trouble with regular stay- set, then I took the line out to 
the shop, tied one end to a bollard,  the other to a fork lift and stretched it 
so tight I could walk on it for an afternoon.  Worked great after that. 




  Bill


  -------- Original message --------
  From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
  Date:10/16/2014 10:19 PM (GMT-05:00) 
  To: Josh Muckley , cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers? 


  Fwiw ATN was not at the Annapolis boat show this year. Always had a booth in 
the past. 
  I've seen the climber used. The rope must be tight for it to work well. I let 
others do the climbing. 


  Joel

  On Thursday, October 16, 2014, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

    Yeah Jack, ATN didn't do themselves any favors when then used the stretchy 
rope.  Too difficult to pull the rope tight enough.  If you get a chance to 
find some ascenders it would be easy to reuse everything you already have to 
make a "top climber"

    A 4:1 block and tackle means that you have to use your arms to pull down 
40-50lbs, 75 to 100 times.  Not particularly hard but slow and tiring.  Using 
any ascender system relies on using you legs to simply squat your body weight 
30 to 40 times.  Easier than climbing 4 flights of stairs.  I estimated 1-2 
feet per pull or squat and a 50' mast.

    Josh

    On Oct 16, 2014 9:18 PM, "Jack Brennan via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

      It’s worth wandering around the marina and testing a couple of systems 
before buying one.

      Everyone seems to have a different preference, depending on your fear of 
heights, taste for adventure, physical condition, etc.

      I inherited a Mast Mate and didn’t like the spongy feel of the ladder. I 
tried an ATN Mast Climber and didn’t like it much, either, probably because I 
wasn’t using a really taut, low-stretch line. Currently, I have a four-part 
system (two double blocks) with 200 feet of line that allows me to lift myself 
up if needed.

      Of course, the best system is the one I use most often – a wife who 
thinks it’s kind of fun to get lifted up the mast.

      Jack Brennan


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